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  1. 1 hour ago, chuckdyke said:

    The Thread is Combat Mission Black Sea. I understand they have this discussion to analyze for a future expansion and scenario design. Otherwise, I can't see the sense of this discussion. 

    Look: Home, CM2, Combat Mission Black Sea, How Hot is Ukraine Gonna Get?

    I'll lets others explain the difference between a forum and a thread, and instead look forward to playing the CM scenario "Shoot a propaganda video."

     

    I still don't know why people are trying to find big houses. There are a few near me, I'm not sure it'll help the conversation here to post photographs.

     

  2. 17 minutes ago, chuckdyke said:

    I don't think so. Have a nice day. The question tells me enough about your knowledge. Why do people make roads and build structures? 

    I'm sorry, I thought this was a discussion on war in Ukraine, not a thread for posting arbitrary pictures of roads and buildings for building computer game scenarios.

    How foolish of me.

    Here, have some scenario fodder that's very relevant to the war at hand - GM-94 grenade launchers need to be part of the standard equipment now.

     

  3. Just now, chuckdyke said:

    You actually know how to play Combat Mission? 

    Yes.

    Now, back to the questions: Why would we care about that road? What makes it so special that it should appear in a scenario?

    What is the point in finding large buildings, when the Ukrainian military are more than capable of finding them themselves?

     

     

     

  4. 6 hours ago, LongLeftFlank said:

    For the future scenario design files.

     

    I'm missing something here.

    Why do we care about that road? Why would it appear in a scenario?

    What is the point or value in identifying large buildings? Oh look, a large building. Now what? It's a large building. Well done.

    I don't get it. If you want to find Russian bases the observe in person, observe radio activity, observe traffic movements, observe where the Russians are.

    Are those likely to be large buildings? Yes. But without the Russians, a large building is just a large building.

  5. 2 hours ago, Pete Wenman said:

    I could watch Zelenskyy handing out medals without getting emotionally involved. When you've lived in communities where the Commanding Officer is tracked from every single kitchen window as he walks through the estate waiting to see which door he'll knock on, you end up a bit inured.

    This though got me.

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    then it became just killing people

     

  6. 20 hours ago, Haiduk said:

    Yes, we had collaborators and traitots, which condemned to death hundreds of people. Fortunately some of them already departed to the God's Court, because corrupted Ukrainian courts have littlle trust.

    Then fix your courts, because extra-judicial killings are called murder.

    Don't murder people. Give them justice.

    (Yes, I recognise the difference between partisan actions against an occupying administration and what happens following liberation of the occupied territory.)

     

    6 hours ago, Armorgunner said:

    NaziRussia does however have Nazis in their ranks.

    Throwing terms like that around really just doesn't help.

    Are these people doing bad things? Then address those bad things.

    You don't have to label them to do that. Are they nazis? Who knows. Frankly who cares. I strongly suspect they're no more or less nazis than some members of the Azov battalion.

    Labelling people leads to dehumanisation, murder and genocide, whether the label is "nazi" or "orc" or "collaborator". If someone's tortured people, ordered the illegal killing of people, shipped 300,000 children to Russia, those are crimes. Prosecute them.

    [I was only gone for half a day and missed a whole conversation, but fortunately read ahead, so comments to Haiduk and TheCapt regarding post-war Russian cultural change removed so that Steve doesn't have to spank me. Neither of us would enjoy that.]

  7. 2 minutes ago, Haiduk said:

    [ many writing ]

    That articulates the culture that you feel needs changing. It doesn't address what I understood to be core challenge, which is how.

    Knowing what needs to change in Russia doesn't help us deliver that change. Given how hard it is to effect material cultural change anywhere (typically a multi-decade, often multi-generational activity, almost always requiring a degree of oppression and internal control) trying to impose cultural change on Russia from outside its borders doesn't feel viable.

    That approach has been tried on North Korea for several decades with success rates hovering around 'none'.

  8. 1 hour ago, sburke said:

    looks to be a new recruit for the dead list.  Any idea what his rank would have been?

    Hmm. No. I foolishly assumed a 41 year old commander with combat deployments to four countries would be reasonably senior but a quick hunt around suggests that Wagner don't really do ranks so a 'commander' could go anywhere from a 14 man detachment to a company. They do have people referenced as 'senior commander' so I'm guessing they have battalion level responsibilities.

    It does though seem to be a bunch of heavily armed mercenaries with no discernible structure.

  9. 57 minutes ago, FancyCat said:

    Something else to think about, we already had reports of looting and seizure in both occupied and recently occupied areas of Ukraine, if their ability to supply the mobilized units remains as bad as it is now, we are going to see that rise, and a according rise in hardship for the civilian population. While looting isn't isolated to one side in any war, there seems to be noticeable effort by Ukraine including both government and civil society to try and assist civilians in the front line zones.

    Hot take: When you secure basic rations from the local stores, it's not looting. It's foraging.

    Expecting armed men to starve while civilians around them can go quietly shopping is not reasonable.

    (Sending armed men to another country uninvited is also unreasonable, even if you send food with them)

  10. 1 minute ago, Probus said:

    I am curious, which countries do you think have the most to gain by blowing the pipeline.  My wife said that Putin had a lot to gain by blowing the pipeline.  It takes some of the coop pressure off him if oligarchs have no financial reason to put him out of office.  But she may have read that on this thread TBH, I can't remember.

    Not just the oligarchs, anybody that might want to end the war to get the gas flowing again. If anything, the oligarchs feel less likely as they've demonstrated terrible flying skills of late; for Putin destroying strategic assets is overkill compared to, erm, just killing them.

    But step back and think who else benefits from this.

    Anybody that feels Germany and other EU nations might waver in their support for Ukraine, in an attempt to keep industry working through the winter (let alone avoid rolling blackouts or citizens dying from cold) could consider removing the means to re-enable the gas supply reduces the option space, making it less likely that support will be withdrawn. There are two Eastern European nations I think would hold that view, and one North American one.

    The North American one would also be very willing to damage 'friendly' economies to help boost their own world standing as a side-effect of reinforcing support for Ukraine. It wouldn't be the first time.

    Then there are the people not involved in Ukraine at all. They get to cause economic turmoil in the EU, boosting their own exports while also strengthening their own case for being Russia's largest natural gas customer.

    Russia remain favourite, if nothing else because of the risks and associated fall-out should anybody else be found to have done it. However..

     

  11. 6 minutes ago, JonS said:

    I think that's a given, no? A diver or sub close to the site would be utterly wrecked by 100kg going 'pop' underwater with them.

    While a depth charge or torpedo is unlikely, an unmanned suicide submersible is viable, as would inserting an explosive laden pig into the pipe.

    I look forward to forensic examination of the sites by Denmark and others, if we're ever allowed to hear what they find.

  12. 2 hours ago, Artkin said:

    Lol.

    "Out of the German army’s 31 Tiger attack helicopters, only 10 were operational while only eight out of 33 NH-90 transport helicopters were ready for duty", "Meanwhile, the Luftwaffe could only deploy 42 of its 109 Eurofighter Typhoon multirole fighters and only 24 of the 56 remaining Transalls were available at any given time."

     

    This was in 2015. I'm not sure what the difference between "Total number" and "Available" are. The vehicles absent are either sitting in storage awaiting repairs, or are vehicles undergoing upgrades, or are deployed for operations abroad, or something similar maybe?

    If you look at the number of Tornado's it's telling.

    Out of 89 total Tornado fighter bombers, only 66 were available and only 38 deployable.

    Eurofighters - 109 total, 74 available, but only 42 deployable.

    Even Marders, 400 vehicles with only 280 available/deployable. A couple brigades isn't a whole lot to fight with on the Eastern Front.

    Only half their CH-53's are available, with only 16 deployable from the original total of 83.

     

    I'm no German military expert, nor an expert in the first place, but if you haven't noticed the issues with the Bundeswehr... well apparently the Fliegerkorps.. you have been living under a rock.

    4 deployable Sea Lynx ASW helicopters. Yeah good luck defending the Baltic Sea with that. 

    Pulling Germany’s Armed Forces Back From the Brink | by War Is Boring | War Is Boring | Medium

    Ramshackle Army at Odds with Berlin's Global Aspirations - DER SPIEGEL

     

    Let's not forget the EU President's time as Germany's Defence Minister:

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-s-neglected-soldiers-forced-to-use-broomstick-as-a-gun-glnqbndf6

     

  13. 3 hours ago, Probus said:

    In my humble but correct opinion 😁, Putin just couldn't stand not using his shiny new submarine the Belgorod which is specifically designed to work on the bottom of the ocean.

     

    Sure. Good luck hiding that in the Baltic. Still, thank you for distracting us from all the flirting going on.

    It is to be fair very likely that the charges on the pipelines were rigged days ago, and either on timers or remotely triggered. Why be spotted at the scene of the crime when you can have high confidence nobody's going to ask what those strange lumps attached to the pipe are.

    But that also means it's possible a surface vessel launched a submersible of some form, or even just divers. How many trawlers have been in that area in the last couple of weeks?

    (I almost asked Russian trawlers, but I'm refusing to assume which country was responsible. I could name five that might think they'd heavily benefit, and that's not including the French.)

     

     

  14. 43 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

    Hmmmm, two attacks on Denmark, well Danish waters, Article 5 anyone?

    Well, it's a Russian strategic asset, so if it wasn't them it's an act of war that would remove Article 5 protections from any NATO member involved.

    Who really wins from this? China.

    (Just throwing it out there. Sorry. Hey, at least I'm not getting into the debate about Snowden.)

  15. 3 hours ago, MSBoxer said:

    Unfortunately our European partners have allowed their militaries to atrophy for 3 decades, confident that the US would support them in any conflict.

    While my country's military has been under funded and has been damaged by what people call 'woke', I would point out that we're confident the US will support us in any conflict because that's a NATO obligation.

    I'd also point out that for the last forty years it's been the US asking us to support them in every conflict.

    I also think people are being unfair on Butschi.

    3 hours ago, Butschi said:

    Where are the cries of "Why doesn't Biden finally send M1s to Ukraine?"?

    This is a perfectly reasonable retort to the constant snide attacks on Germany for not providing Leopard tanks it doesn't have to spare.

    Scroll down to Germany on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foreign_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War and then look at 27278.jpeg

    Germany's contribution is poor in comparison with the US, the UK and especially Poland (given GPD differences) but Butschi really does have a valid point.

  16. 1 hour ago, The_Capt said:

    So I would offer that you undertake a learning journey into this area: https://www.rand.org/topics/psychological-warfare.html

    Closely linked to Influence operations:

    https://jpia.princeton.edu/news/strategic-influence-operations-call-action

    And the concepts of Reflexive Control:

    https://georgetownsecuritystudiesreview.org/2017/02/01/disinformation-and-reflexive-control-the-new-cold-war/
     

    And subversive warfare:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/understanding-subversion-considerations-our-special-forces-waller

    I think you will find that 1) this is an enormously complex field of operations, far beyond WW2 propaganda, and 2) no, western governments do not practice this on their own people.  Governments do strategic communications and public affairs but conducting psychological operations directly at ones citizenry occurs in autocratic regimes and not so much in western democracies.

     

    Thank you.

    In return, I can only offer you "big nasty pointy teeth".

     

  17. 14 hours ago, Combatintman said:

    Nine months of my life on operations in the role, two years of my life in a PSYOPs unit and three months of my life on courses suggest otherwise ...

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    Ah, I should perhaps apologise. I was speaking in the context of people complaining that the West need to develop/improve their psyops against civilian populations.

    I can trace military psyops back to WW2, targeting both civilian populations and military opponents. Propaganda does however tend to be a Government activity rather than a military one; military interactions are usually far more nuanced and targeted, and the suggestion at hand around targeting Russian civilians would in the UK be initiated by non-military entities taking advantage of civil resources (such as the BBC).

    Military psyops feel more applicable to the suggestion someone made around depositing caches of vodka, or intercepting Russian supplies of toilet roll to the frontline troops. I'm sure you'll find that a naive assumption, but I would nonetheless stand by my belief that political entities in the US are more capable than military ones at influencing public opinion.

  18. 15 hours ago, Battlefront.com said:

    it would take Russia longer and more hoops to get a tactical nuke sent on its way vs. ICBMs.  I'm thinking this because ICBMs are, theoretically, ready for launch at any time.  A tac nuke requires a system to get into position and the shell/missile to be transfered from a secured facility out to the launcher.  That takes time and more people.

    Aircraft launched precision missiles with a tactical warhead are surely already available? Keeping aircraft on patrol above the Caspian Sea is easy enough.

    Ok, it means up to half an hour for the warhead to arrive, but any target worth that escalation isn't going to be moving very fast anyway.

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    The discussions here on psyops are farcical. Political organisations cross the US and the EU have been conducting them for years, on their own populations. The military is about the only group that _don't_ have the capability.

     

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