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    New Scenario: 3:10 to Yuma

    in CMSF Scenario and Mod Design Forum

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    This was my first time playing the mission and it was superb!

    I made it into town with no casualties after getting some covering fire from the police snipers occupying elevated positions. Using CAS I managed to foil the enemies attacks but look heavy losses when the Cavalry turned up just in time. After clearing the town I secured the prisoner and began to pull out.

    Then, on the road out of town an F-15 that had been spotted by a KIA squad (meaning I couldn't give a cease fire order) took out the prisoner's transport :eek:

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    Raid inside Syria by US SOF huge success (Bill Roggio)

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

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    I thankyou Mead for complementing the "eloquence" of my assertions. I am trying to be very careful exactly how I express my counter points to test your arguments (which I dont entirely disagree with). For the record, I find this debate quite fascinating and I`ve learned a lot. I have a rule not to talk religion or politics in real life with people becuase it seems to always lead to argument and bring out the worst in folks (plus im no expert) but I have decided to risk it in cyber space, and I dont regret it.

    To clarify, I was not trying to create a moral-equilivence between the United States and that of Islamic Jihidists (which I agree is not true), but between American Christian fundamentalists and say Islamic Jihidists in Afghanistan, both of whom support global terrorism. I feel that I've made my point now and I wont labour it. I'm using Christian fundamentalists as an example here becuase of the parallels with Islamic Extremism, but other self-serving parties such as the oil companies, the arms industry and other special interests groups lobbying, influence and campaign contributions far surpass that of the Zionist lobby and its allied donors to congressional races.

    And how would you feel if America was occupied and deverstated by a foreign invader in order to deal with this top level "terrorist" minority, becuase America is unable or unwilling to deal with them itself and even supports and harbours them? And how would you react if your home was layed to waste while being used as a magnet to draw out this enemy into open conflict?

    My second point was that I'm trying to humanize some of the enemy, and show that there is a real moral-equilivence.

    For instance, I do agree that there is no exclusively military solution to the Iraq/stan situation and to create a stable and secure state governed by its people, that does not represent a strategic threat to free democracies, is a better solution. This is working in the Musa Qala provence of 'stan where a taliban leader has changed sides and is now the district govenor. This could only be achieved by talking to the enemy and finding a moral-equilivence. However other Taliban leaders unreasonably refuse to negotiate becuase of a fundamental "conflict of visions" and bloodshed is a necessary solution. The enemy is a collection of groups, each one requiring a different approach.

    however, perhaps it is naive to think we can bring western style democracy to ancient tribal societies by force. It took 100's of years in Europe to evolve our system of government. I do beleive we can win these wars, but only if winning means not losing.

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    Raid inside Syria by US SOF huge success (Bill Roggio)

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

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    my ethical values are all I've got

    If your ethics place you in opposition to Islamic extremists, and citizens of countries that support and harbour them, do your ethics also put you in opposition to Christian fundamentalists, and citizens of nations that support and harbour them? Or, becuase Christian fundamentalists pose not direct harm to you right now, do you not consider them not to be in violation of your ethics and therefor not your enemy?

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    Raid inside Syria by US SOF huge success (Bill Roggio)

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

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    If you figure that something is right and is worth dying for, then go for it.

    That was basically the attitude of the 9/11 terrorist.

    If elements within the US 'knowingly' facilitating said 'negative occurrances' on human beings whom otherwise are trying to go about their daily lives, which may include 'working' for money in order to sustain, protect, or otherwise benefit human life, ie 'innocent' people, then are they legitimate targets too? From the ME perspective some are even willing to live extremely dishonorable lives in order to see them cry. That's what 911 was all about. They would die for that not to happen again. Even if it means having to feed a lot of people Boeing 767/improvised JDAM sandwiches.

    And how would you feel if America was occupied and deverstated by a foreign invader in order to deal with this top level "terrorist" minority, becuase America is unable or unwilling to deal with them itself and even supports and harbours them? And how would you react if your home was layed to waste while being used as a magnet to draw out this enemy into open conflict?

    You see how your rhetoric was easy to turn around? My point is that 9/11 wasnt just solely becuase they wanted to see Americans cry.

    It takes two to tango and war is usually(perhaps always?) the result of failures on both sides. Conflict is however, sometimes a necessary reality. But becuase the innocent almost always suffer, it has to be used as a tool to ultimately save more lives then it costs. My fear is the Iraq war, or the support of Isreal, will not do this, so perhaps it is time to cut our losses.

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    Raid inside Syria by US SOF huge success (Bill Roggio)

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I agree meade95 some have earned a bullet and should get one.

    But perhaps it would make more sense to start with closer targets first, such as the Christian/Zionist religious extremists in America. I also agree that a bullet is only one solution, for example, freezing assets would limit their ability to support mass suffering, ethnic cleansing and terrorism.

    However, as Bigduke6 was saying, there are so many shades of gray. Do you go after those who have use theology to support politics and believe that Israel must not return illegally occupied territories in the interest of peace or negotiate, those who directly supported the establishment of terrorist states and acts of terrorism or those who favor and influence an unjustified war-mongering, hawkish foreign policy becuase of intolerant fundamentalist beliefs?

    forgive me for playing devils advocate, but remember one man's terrorist is anothers freedom fighter.

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    An actual U.S. special forces attack inside Syria

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    As we all know, the oil companies have no incentive to rid themselves of the most profitable product on the face of this Earth until there is a rival product to it. And nobody, and I mean nobody, thinks that such a product exists. So they've got a monopolistic advantage that will not be broken by natural market forces. Monopolies are bad for economies.

    Steve

    very well put. There is another industry that also has a big hand in government, credit to sfhand for mentioning this.

    The U.S. would do well to heed General/President Eisenhower's farewell address re: the military industrial complex

    I fear, for reasons previously stated, that attacking Iran may only increase support for anti-western terrorism, the result being far worse then the current support by certain elements for Shiite Muslim militias.

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    An actual U.S. special forces attack inside Syria

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    But has Operation Iraqi Freedom and the U.S. Global War on Terrorism really decreased Islamic terrorism? I honestly dont know the answer, but its not as clear cut as some of you are saying.

    According to the Israel Intelligence Heritage & Commemoration Center, Saddam Hussein had a long history before the invasion of giving money to families of suicide bombers in Palestine.And, as part of the justification for the war, the Bush Administration argued that Saddam Hussein also had ties to al-Qaeda, and that his overthrow would lead to democratisation in the Middle East, decreasing terrorism overall.[22] However, reports from the CIA, the U.S. State Department, the FBI, and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, as well as the investigations of foreign intelligence agencies found no evidence of an operational connection between Saddam and al-Qaeda.[23] On the contrary, a consensus has developed among intelligence experts that the Iraq war has increased terrorism. Counterterrorism expert Rohan Gunaratna frequently refers to the invasion of Iraq as a "fatal mistake."[24] London's conservative International Institute for Strategic Studies concluded in 2004 that the occupation of Iraq had become "a potent global recruitment pretext" for jihadists and that the invasion "galvanised" al-Qaeda and "perversely inspired insurgent violence" there.[25] The U.S. National Intelligence Council concluded in a January 2005 report that the war in Iraq had become a breeding ground for a new generation of terrorists; David B. Low, the national intelligence officer for transnational threats, indicated that the report concluded that the war in Iraq provided terrorists with "a training ground, a recruitment ground, the opportunity for enhancing technical skills... There is even, under the best scenario, over time, the likelihood that some of the jihadists who are not killed there will, in a sense, go home, wherever home is, and will therefore disperse to various other countries." The Council's Chairman Robert L. Hutchings said, "At the moment, Iraq is a magnet for international terrorist activity."[26] And the 2006 National Intelligence Estimate, which outlined the considered judgment of all 16 U.S. intelligence agencies, held that "The Iraq conflict has become the 'cause celebre' for jihadists, breeding a deep resentment of US involvement in the Muslim world and cultivating supporters for the global jihadist movement."[27] According to Mohammed Hafez, "Since 2003, the number of suicide bombings in Iraq has surpassed all those of Hamas in Israel, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka combined."[28]

    Al-Qaeda leaders have seen the Iraq war as a boon to their recruiting and operational efforts, providing evidence to jihadists worldwide that America is at war with Islam, and the training ground for a new generation of jihadists to practice attacks on American forces. In October 2003, Osama bin Laden announced: "Be glad of the good news: America is mired in the swamps of the Tigris and Euphrates. Bush is, through Iraq and its oil, easy prey. Here is he now, thank God, in an embarrassing situation and here is America today being ruined before the eyes of the whole world."[29] Al-Qaeda commander Seif al-Adl gloated about the war in Iraq, indicating, "The Americans took the bait and fell into our trap."[30] A letter thought to be from al-Qaeda leader Atiyah Abd al-Rahman found in Iraq among the rubble where al-Zarqawi was killed and released by the U.S. military in October 2006, indicated that al-Qaeda perceived the war as beneficial to its goals: "The most important thing is that the jihad continues with steadfastness ... indeed, prolonging the war is in our interest.

    Dr. Steven Kull testified before the House Committee on Foreign Affairs on May 17, 2007, that "a new feeling about the US that has emerged in the wake of 9-11. This is not so much an intensification of negative feelings toward the US as much as a new perception of American intentions. There now seems to be a perception that the US has entered into a war against Islam itself. I think perhaps the most significant finding of our study is that across the four countries (Morocco, Egypt, Pakistan, and Indonesia), 8 in 10 believe that the US seeks to 'weaken and divide the Islamic world.'"

    ^ taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War_and_U.S._Global_War_on_Terror#Increase_in_terrorism

    perhaps the question is this; do these "kenetic" solutions, such as cross boarder raids and military occupation, ultimatly do more harm then good by fueling the perception, that previously existed mainly due to support for Israel, that the U.S./West is at war with Islam?

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    An actual U.S. special forces attack inside Syria

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    When I heard the report about the 'raid' my first thought was "October surprise" a political stunt pulled just before the election in an effort to change the dynamics of the race. Can't exactly go bomb Iran because, unlike Syria, Iran might actually DO something as a response!

    I agree the emphasis on this news story reeks of political manipulation, although the raid itself was primarily a military decision.

    I think the easiest ways to minimize radical Islamic terrorism would be to change our foreign policy, particularly the US support of Israel and its illegal occupation.

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    I've got mail!

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    It need not fit inside the DVD case (although why not use another extra thick/duel DVD case?). I guess the cost of printing hard copies of the new 1.10 manual is just too high, but fyi I would of been happy to pay extra for one.

    I will have to ask my local print shop I guess :)

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    I've got mail!

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

    Posted

    I got my copy of the Marines module today :)

    I love the module itself, but I was disapointed with the printed manual. Its only black and white and 30 pages long (including the front cover, index etc.) which is quite short for a DVD case size booklet. I think it should of included the updated shockforce manual at least.

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    Performance of CMSF:Marines

    in Combat Mission Shock Force 1

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    I agree the graphics are quite horrendous for people with high spec systems. This tends to makes people think the game is badly made and dismiss it.

    But a nice simple looking and smooth 3D world and responsive camera controls could do so much for the game and its popularity. Look at those games on the nintendo wii - they look good but have simple, smooth graphics that dont put people off.

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