Ghost1
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Now that is one of the finer posts I've read on this forum, makes complete sense.Originally posted by RuhrRiver:Having watched the number and content of posts before and after CMBO and CMBB, I am struck with what I see as the much greater conflict between posters concerning TOW, and the passion of many of the negative responses--keeping in mind that many posters (we don't know about non-posters, remember) are delighted with the game.
My current guess is that much of the negativity (and the neg-pos poster conflict) could have been avoided if there had been more than one week for the posting community to learn the game and do extended play after the demo but before the full game release. Many of these conflicts and questions would have come up, and could have been resolved and at least addressed more before full game release and the decision to buy/not buy.
And just to anticipate one line of response: I think the "well you should have played the demo more before you bought the game" is correct, and not useful. It is a reprimand, not a reasonable plan for making things better. There are lots of shoulds and few constructive, realistic plans, which is one reason why everything from games to international relations are less than we would hope for.
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Quote by Andreas...
"I have not even looked at the game, so I can not comment on actual criticims or praise regarding it."
And that just about sums it up!
[ April 29, 2007, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Ghost1 ]
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PRODUCING COHERENT STATEMENTS...WELL YOU HAD NO TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING IT DID YOU ? Geesh it gets worse...Deranged paranoid ranting ! what the hell are you on about, are you completely F*****g insane?..... let's get out of this F*****g place.. Stick yer game and yer fanbois..Good luck you will need it!!! yeah I'm gone but there's plenty more that will see the TRUTH about this utter drek you call a game. </font>Originally posted by Ghost1:</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Andreas:
There's criticism, and there's deranged paranoid ranting about the BFC conspiracy of asking beta-testers to open multiple accounts to defend the game from people who have trouble producing coherent statements.
I am sorry you seem to be unable to see the difference.
All the best
Andreas
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PRODUCING COHERENT STATEMENTS...WELL YOU HAD NO TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING IT DID YOU ? Geesh it gets worse...Deranged paranoid ranting ! what the hell are you on about, are you completely F*****g insane?..... let's get out of this F*****g place.. Stick yer game and yer fanbois..Good luck you will need it!!! yeah I'm gone but there's plenty more that will see the TRUTH about this utter drek you call a game.Originally posted by Andreas:There's criticism, and there's deranged paranoid ranting about the BFC conspiracy of asking beta-testers to open multiple accounts to defend the game from people who have trouble producing coherent statements.
I am sorry you seem to be unable to see the difference.
All the best
Andreas
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Elvis...I understand and respect the views and comments you make..My beef is that some people seeemingly post to these forums and are defending obvious bad flaws in this game. The fact that some love the game and others hate it is not really what I'm getting at..Originally posted by Elvis:Dear Ghost1,
The difference is Andreas knows he needs help. The first step is understanding you have a problem.
I am probably one of the beta testers you referred. I was never asked to post in defense of the game by anyone (including Andreas). I really enjoy the game. There was a time when I started testing that I questioned whether I liked it or not. Then I started to understand it better and found that using the same tactics I used in other games is what worked for me with this one. The reason I have posted in this forum is that I believe some people are misunderstanding what is being represented visually in the game and I have tried to offer explainations gather from my deeper experience with the game (there is no way you have played it close to as much as me and no human has played teh Avalanche battle more than me). SO that is why I post. I receive no money or even pat on the back for posting positive things about the game. I do enjoy it and understand it is not CM (love) or CC (hated it).
Elvis
Let's just take a couple of concerns, framerates, why should a game come to an almost crawl when I play it with well over the basic system limits? why, when I want to play mulitiplayer does it crash? YES, everytime.There are of course many more problems that have been aired which I will not go into again. Can ALL the people that are suggesting that this game has major flaws be wrong?....
Many, I know, say they are playing the game with no problems, well, can I have their game please? because I must be playing something totally different.
In my opinion this game was not finshed or optimised for whatever reason, Battlefront, again in my opinion should have realised this and kept well away.
I have well over 100 games on my shelf new and old, all had some problems out of the box I will agree, but I can honestly say that NONE played as badly as this. So to reflect on my earlier post in this thread, yes, it does seem that some of the kudos, and I may add, blind praise given to this game may indeed come from people closely associated with it, (and as I stated, "in my opinion") and what's more I stand by every word.
Now if some mod or whoever wants to ban me or say I need medical help so be it, but it will never alter the FACT that this game is not finished, not optimised, and should never have been released in the obvious mess it is.
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Quote by Andreas..
"You need help mate" WHAT ! and you don't???????????????
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Quote by Rune...
"Show me ONE person from Battlefront who is posting under another name not speaking the truth.
So you would agree that people from battlefront ARE posting under a different name...
Game set and match I believe??????...ban away if you must..TRUTH HURT DOES IT ?????????????
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The game's a mess. end of. Anybody who says the TRUTH will agree..Of course people defend it, MOST from Battlefront and the dev's in my opinion, but of course we will never know will we?
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Truth hurts, don't it?Originally posted by stic.man:buyer beware you euro trash
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Quote by BillyBob
"I hope what you'll be drinking will be tastier than this lemon we're all sucking on."
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Quote..."I want a refund"
Yes you, and a great many more..
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As i said in an earlier post.
Tries hard. But for me, VERY disappointing.
I believe this game would have been more acceptable by many if it had been released 5 or more years ago. I accept that it's a small dev' teams creation and all kudos to them but it seems that the world of computer game play moves so fast that unless you can somehow keep up you will be lost in the myriad. All in all a very dated looking game,with numerous bugs and poor command interface, unfortunately drawfed in a world of superior graphics and Yes, superior gameplay. Still maybe it will mod well? Just my opinion of course.
But I have learned my lesson, I will NEVER buy another game until I've played the demo no matter how much the publishers or dev's try to TEMPT me..I completely agree with Krull..Why was the demo released so late? could it be that Battlefront/dev's, realised that the consumer would catch on and realise that this game is very badly flawed?...Never Again ! !
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Tries hard. But for me, VERY disappointing.
I believe this game would have been more acceptable by many if it had been released 5 or more years ago. I accept that it's a small dev' teams creation and all kudos to them but it seems that the world of computer game play moves so fast that unless you can somehow keep up you will be lost in the myriad. All in all a very dated looking game, and poor command interface unfortunately drawfed in a world of superior graphics and Yes, gameplay. Still maybe it will mod well? Just my opinion of course.
[ April 20, 2007, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Ghost1 ]
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Quote by Moon..
"This doesn't work with us. We don't have the budgets to plaster Gamespy etc. with ads or buy favorable editorials. We have to work for our money as the most important tool for us is word of mouth to make sure that the news spread and the game is good. For that long term support is essential. And, obviously, a good game, too.
Luckily this meshes well with our dedication for what we do, and is one of the reasons why this little fish is still around in a sea of sharks
Martin"
Nice to hear that Martin !... Well said.
Ghost1
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heheheh ! ...Well i'm 63 so we have a few grandpops here?..I've not posted before so hello to all...Originally posted by Melnibone:Hello, I am 108 years old. I'm really hoping the manual has a very large typeface.
I really think this game will be great I've been following it for a long time and to be honest I never thought it would see the light of day ! didn't believe it till I actually pre-ordered..
I wish Battlefront much success with the game !
Regards.
Ghost1
My two cents, for anyone that cares
in Theatre of War
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You can criticise the game all you want, and I would not comment (and in fact haven't, anywhere). It's when you indulge in paranoid theories about BFC and beta testers manipulating the board that I start to care, and I'll comment.
I doubt you'll get it this time round, but it is always worth trying.
All the best
Andreas </font>