[Red Army Order of Battle - Research]

As there were too large number of mistakes in Bigduke6's post, I rewrote it as such:

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- 13th Army

15 Rifle Corps (8, 148, 211 RD)

28 Rifle Corps (181, 336, 415 RD)

19 Gds Gun Art Rgt

874 Antitank Art Rgt

476,477th Mortar Rgts

10 Antiaircraft Division, (802,975,984 AA Art. Rgts)

1287 Antiaircraft Regiment

275 Separate Engineer Battalion

49 Pontoon Bn

50 Pontoon Bn

- 38th Army

23 Rifle Corps (23, 30 RD)

50 Rifle Corps (163, 167, 232, 340 RD)

51 Rifle Corps (136, 180, 240 RD)

21 Rifle Corps (71, 74 RD)

1st Czechoslovakian Infantry Brigade

7th Breakthrough Art Corps, consisting of:

13th Breakthrough Art Div: (42 Lgt Art Bde, 47 Howitzer Art Bde, 88,91 Hvy Art Bdes, 101 High-Power Howitzer Bde, and 17th

Mortar Bde)

17th Breakthrough Art Div: (37th Light Art. Bde, 39th Gun Art. Bde, 50th howitzer Art. Bde, 92nd Heavy howitzer Bde, 108th

High-power Howitzer Bde, 22nd Mortar Bde)

3rd Gds Mortar Div (Rem.AMVAS - Katyushas), (15, 18, and 19 Gds Mortar Bde)

-- end of the corps forces --

112th Gds Gun Art. Regt

1950th Gun Art. Regt

805,839th howitzer rEgts,

9th Gds Antitank Bde

28th Antitank Bde

4th Gds, 316th Gds, 202, 868, 1075, 1660, and 1666 Antitank Artillery Regts

12th Mortar Bde

491,492nd Mortar REgts

5,16,66,83 Gds. Mortar Regts (Katyushas)

8 Antiaircraft Div (797, 848, 978, and 1063 AA Art. Rgts)

21 Antiaircraft Div (1044, 1334, 1340, 1346 AA Art Rgt)

994th Antiaircraft Art. Regt/10th AA Div.

1288th Antiaircraft Art. Regt.

5th Gds Tank Corps: (20, 21, 22 Gds Tank Bdes; 6 Gds Motorised Rifle Bde, 48 Gds Tank Rgt, 80 Motorcycle Bn, 1499

AntitankArtillery Rgt, 754 Separate Antitank Artillery Bn, 454 Mortar Rgt, 1696 Antiticraft Rgt)

39 Separate Tank Rgt

7, 235, 268, and 1505 Separate Engineer Battalions

108 Pontoon Rgt

- 60th Army

17 Gds Rifle Corps (6 and 70 Gd RD)

18 Gds Rifle Corps (2, 3, and 4 Gds Airborne Divsions)

24 Rifle Corps (112 and 226 RD)

30 Rifle Corps (75 Gd and 121 RD)

77 Rifle Corps (132, 141, 143, and 280 RD)

248th Rifle Bde

1 Gds Artillery Division (3 Gds Lgt Art Bde, 1st Gds Gun Art Bde)

1156 Gun Art. Rgt

130, 493, 1178, and 1689 Antitank Artillery Rgt

128, 138, 497 Mortar Rgts

25 Antiaircraft Division (1067,1356,1362,1368 Antiaircraft Art. Rgts)

217th Antiaircraft Art. Rgt

129 and 150 Tank Bde

59 Separate Tank Rgt

37, 49, and 58 Separate Armored Train Battalions

59th Enginee-Sapper Bde

317th Separate Engineer Bn

9,21 Pontoon Bns

3rd Guards Tank Army

91 Gds Mortar Regiment (Katyushas)

1381 and 1394 Antiaircraft Art. Regiment

6 Gd Tank Corps (51, 52, and 53 Gds Tank Bdes; 22nd Gd Motorised Rifle Bde, 1442 and 1893 SP gun Artillery Rgts, 3 Gds

Motorcycle Bn, 289th Gds. Antitank Art. Regt.

55 Separate Gds Antitank Art Bn, 272 Gds Mortar Rgt, 286 Gds Antiaircraft Art Rgt)

7 Gd Tank Corps (54, 55, and 56 Gd Tank Bdes; 23 Gd Motorised Rifle Bde, 1419 and 1894 SP gun Artillery Rgt, 4th Gds

Motorcycle Bn, 56 Separate Gds Antitank Bn, 467 Gds Mortar Rgt, 287 Gds Antiaircraft Art. Rgt)

9 Mechanised Corps (69, 70, and 71 Mechanised Bdes; 47,59 Gds Tank Rgts, 1823 SP gun Artillery Rgt,

100 Motorcycle Bn, 396 Separate Antitank Art. Bn, 386 Separate Antitank Art. Rgt, 616 Mortar Rgt, 1719 Antiaircraft Art. Rgt)

91 Tank Brigade

166 Separate Tank Rgt

1835 and 1836 SP gun Artillery Rgt

50 Motorcycle Rgt

182nd Separate engineer Bn

Front Assets

218 and 322 RD

3 Gd Parachute Bde

3rd Gds. Airborne Division

1 Gds Cavalry Corps (1, 2, and 7 Gds Cav Div; 1461 SP gun Artillery Rgt; 143 Gds Antitank Art, Rgt, 1 Separate Gds Antitank

Artillery Bn, 1 Gds Mortar Rgt (Katyushas), 49 Gds Mortar Bn, 319 Antiaircraft Art. Rgt)

24 Gds Gun Artillery Bde

7 Gds Antitank Artillery Bde

2nd Antitank Artillery Bde

317 Gds, 269, 563, 680, 1076, 1593, 1672 Antitank Artillery Rgts

494 Mortar Rgt

36, 98, 314, 316, and 323 Gds Mortar Rgts (Katyushas)

1488 and 1954 Antiaircraft Art. Rgts

332 Separate Antiaircraft Art. Bn

1454 SP gun Artillery Rgt

45th Separate Armored Train Bn

4 and 9 Engineer-Sapper Bde

15 Assault Engineer-Sapper Bde

42 Special Destination Engineer Bde

3 and 6 Pontoon Bdes

13 Gds Miner Bn

20 Pontoon Bn

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Rem.

Russian terms

"Diviziya"=Division

and

"Divizion"=Battalion (Artillery, Armored Train and some others)

Also I prefer to specify "Katyushas" rocket launcers units to distinguish them with Gds. units of ordinary mortars.

Of course for them we can use Gds. Rocket Artillery Regiment/Bn... designation too

Regards

Alex

[Red Army Order of Battle - Research]

Originally posted by Bigduke6:

Alex, my sincere thanks. If you are ever in Kiev I owe you a beer.

I'm not sure, but maybe next year I'll be passing Kiev. Not sure though...

There is no strength information, at least in the file I looked at.

There can't be any data abuot strength.

Strength records are archival ones.

As Alex points out, the lists themselves (there must be hundreds of Megs of info) are huge but not exhaustive; I can see how independent companies and so on never got listed. But by that same token it is a giant mass of information. It lists not just ground but air and sea formations, right down to every major ship, apparently.

There were about 300Mb, or so.

I won't do translations, but if any of you CM guys need me to do a bit of digging on a particular unit or parent formation, shoot me an e-mail. The information is laid out fairly logically, from what I can tell, although I've only scratched the surface.

I think the best way is to translate abbreviations.

Regards

Alex

[Red Army Order of Battle - Research]

Originally posted by Bigduke6:

Wow, a 2-year-old thread arisen from the dead, and the answer when it arrives is incredible. You guys just saved me $240.

Welcome... Now you can spend them for something else...

For SO, the monthly returns in PDF are by-Front listings of armies, corps, divisions, brigades, and in some cases regiments under the Front's command, it looks like 1941-45 inclusive. If you have a question that data base can answer I owe you a favor.

Yes, the "BSSA" book is very interesting source.

However it contains some typos, especially in the last volume.

The "perechen" listings look even "meatier," but I can't open them because they're in some scan format my computer doesn't recognize. I'll fix that software issue pretty quick, I think.

.djvu mean anything to any one out there?

Install freeware DjVu plugin from www.lizardtech.com

For the record here is the URL for the "perechen" listings:

Massive Red Army OB source, in Russian

Links I gave above are better than from Soldat.ru

Multi-volume RAR files from Soldat.ru can need some tricks (i.e. renaming) to be opened.

From what I gather from the titles, the "perechen" files (it means "list" in Russian, roughly) gives data on every single regiment, and every organization higher than regiment up through front, ever fielded by the Red Army. Don't know yet what kind of data, past for sure it includes parent formations. Once I figure out .dvsp files I'll post here.

Yes, you are right..

One specification though. Besides "Perechen" lists exists some additions (see www.Soldat.ru site), which introduces some additions/corrections to that volumes

Regards

Alex

[Red Army Order of Battle - Research]

Originally posted by Stalin's Organist:

In addition there is a CD of the daily returns of strengths that Soviet formations put into STAVKA - IIRC it's about US$250 too, but it's in Russian here

Well, I'd say it's the same sort of docs, which you can find online on the link at the bottom of your post...

Also if you read Russian this site has lists of monthly returns (look for het PDF's towards the bottom of the list for each year).....but I have no idea where they come from or what's actually in them 'cos I dont' read it

Just the link I mentined.

"BSSA" is one of the main books for the Soviet OOBs. I gave it to Vasiliy (the author of that site)

typical abbreviations for them translated into english I gathered in the next file:

http://www.rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/abbreviations/OOB_abbr.doc

Also draw attention to another set of books - so called "Perechen'" listings - a 36 volume set, containing VERY large amount of info.

try this thread for downloading them (if the links are workable...)

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=54156

Regards

Alex

[Maps of the Eastern Front]

Originally posted by the_enigma:

May i just say thanks for the great source!

(although i sat with a headache most of the night after i found the site from staring at the maps on my computer screen too much lol)

Welcome

I have hundreds of unprocessed schemes.

But as I need to be patient to requests of different sort of people I try to provide different sorts of info

[Maps of the Eastern Front]

Sorry for some pop-in windows.

As I got some complains on this I'll remove them in September!

Regards,

Alex

[Russian Tankers in Shermans - Only M4A2's to Russia?]

I have to say that Russian archival records very often operates with general specifications of tanks, i.e. "M3M", "M3L" and similar, without any details for their modifications. the same picture is with Soviet tanks - T-34, KVs et. al. You always can see its type, but not modification.

The only way to trace modifications seems to check, for example, archival records which describes from which plant were this or that specific vehicle received.

IMHO, too hard work to do..

Regards,

Alex