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  1. Good post t34/85, peace is the major victory for all wars.

    The Japonese and Germans have both become major players in the world economy (no one knows about the soviet union) and for the most part, the world is war-free still. This is a good thing that needs to last for several hundred years (hope,hope).

    werfer

  2. BTW, whether or not these actions were carried out for military purposes or not. Their were many innocent people killed for no other reason other than living in fairly close location to a military target. Except in the British case, that flying at night if they were hit they would drop their bombs WHEREVER they were and try to return home. (even with the risk of running into their own planes headed towards the same target that they couldn't see in the dark).

    As I stated in a previous message a while back. My father was an allied flyer in a B24 that was shot down over Germany in '44 and spent the last 9 months in a German POW camp, being captured by the ss who more or less saved him (and the rest of his crew) from being lynched by the mob that had surrounded them.

    Why were these people so enraged?. It couldn't have been the fact that their homes had already been destroyed by indiscriminate bombing could it.?

    I am not trying to free the Germans from their war attrocities at all, just to show/post that ALL the allied parties were just as guilty.

    Thanks

    werfer

    [This message has been edited by werfer (edited 03-12-2000).]

  3. That post by Germanboy about the firebombing of Dresden and the continued indescriminate bombing of both civilian and military targets in Berlin proves once again that the victor writes the rules of "proper" fighting.

    Allied flyers on some missions were told to just "unload your bombs at the fires below" with no particular target in mind. Question, is that criminal?. How many civilians were "down below"?, or did it even matter to the ones giving the orders.

    The SS in that part were only as quilty as their allied equals, with the only difference being that they saw the faces of the innocents being murdered.

    werfer

  4. That post by Germanboy about the firebombing of Dresden and the continued indescriminate bombing of both civilian and military targets in Berlin proves once again that the victor writes the rules of "proper" fighting.

    Allied flyers on some missions were told to just "unload your bombs at the fires below" with no particular target in mind. Question, is that criminal?. How many civilians were "down below"?, or did it even matter to the ones giving the orders.

    The SS in that part were only as quilty as their allied equals, with the only difference being that they saw the faces of the innocents being murdered.

    werfer

  5. It was all politics Major Tom, The established european powers had "channels" to go thru to get anything done. While Hitler just had his general staff that had sworn an oath of allegence to him personally.

    I believe also that the French, Polish, Czech and to some extent the British also had at least equal equipment capabilites as the Germans had in '39. It was just the "eager" younger generals that Hitler put in command had some very good ideas about lightning warfare and were looking for the chance to show it, as against other european countries used to fighting/defending stagnant lines of defense that had worked for them over the previous 100+ years.

    Just thoughts.

    Thanks

    werfer

  6. Yes Major Tom, you said it perfectly about the 300,000 casualties in WW2 and 600,000 casualties in the North American civil war, in fact 600,000 kia's was more than the USA had lost in ALL of its previous wars combined!.

    I still think that if the WW2 vets had rose a stink over their lack of recognition that there would have been memorials put up maybe even during the second world war. But alas, the WW2 vets just thought that they were doing their duty for peace and for mankind, without any hopes (or thoughts) of being remembered for eternity.

    My father served in the US 8th AF in Europe and spent 9 months in a German pow camp after being shot down and he still doesn't seem anxious for the memorials and other things that some people are requesting for the WW2 vets to have their "fair due", with some of them just happy to get home alive!.

    thanks

    werfer

  7. There was a grand old wargame on the old atari xl series called "eastern front". The game was very primitive being only on a plug in cartridege, but was most enjoyable. I remember one bad habit of the ai doing, was when you really crushed a soviet unit, it would "retreat" forwards!.

    I really enjoy any of the PG series tiltles, including PG3, which has been reamed on some other discussion boards. Never foud much of a liking for West Front or East Front2 titles from Talonsoft, nor greatly impressed by cc2 or cc4 (even though I still play them). CC3 was my favorite title from that series.

    The demo for CM looks pretty darn good, took the best of PG series and combined them with some CC series positives, threw in outstanding graphics and came out with a beautiful looking game!.

    thanks

    werfer

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