Picking up a MG on the ground

[Jaresh]

Hi,

Had a MG team whose gunner died and vanished from the map.

Later on I brought back the team to the spot where he died as I noticed his barely used MG lying on the floor.

I placed the team on the spot for a while but it didn't seem to want to pick the weapon. I've called the optician but it still doesnt work...

Any guess?

[flamingknives]

MGs can be knocked out. Maybe it was broken.

[Erwin]

Can one pick up a weapon without giving buddy aid?

Also, when one is playing German vs German (or US vs US), can one acquire a weapon from the oppo side?

[Wego McPbem]

Can one pick up a weapon without giving buddy aid?

In the case of HMG and mortar teams, yes. The mg\mortar is transferred to an active soldier without any buddy aid required. Done for balance reasons I believe, the teams would be a bit too fragile otherwise.

[Erwin]

Thanks for the info. Didn't realize that.

Any idea re what happens re picking up "enemy" HMG and mortars when you have a red vs red or blue vs blue scenario?

[nik mond]

On occasion I have seen HMG's abandoned and left behind in case of extreme panic. Although you can herd the same team back on top of the weapon, I am wondering if another team can come by and scoop it up.

Oh, and I am wondering about Erwin's question too regarding Red on red scooping up their enemy's weapons, is it possible. Gonna have to try that.

[JonS]

I doubt it, for both.

AFAIK, there're only two ways wpns can be xfered;

1) automatically when a wpns carry is WIA/KIA. The wpn is xferred instantly and automatically to another member of the same squad/team.

2) buddy aid recovery.

Neither of those circumstances apply to wpns lying on the gnd or to enemy wpns, even in a RvR or BvB battle.

[Erwin]

So you contradict what Wego McPbem said: "In the case of HMG and mortar teams, yes. The mg\mortar is transferred to an active soldier without any buddy aid required."

Anyone know which it is for sure?

[JonS]

So you contradict what Wego McPbem said: "In the case of HMG and mortar teams, yes. The mg\mortar is transferred to an active soldier without any buddy aid required."

No. I agreed with him. That is, exactly, 1) in my post above.

[Erwin]

Ok, I agree with that too as that is how I thought the game worked...

I thought the implication was that another soldier can come by LATER and pick up the HMG or Mortar that has been left lying around.

It was a confusing thread:

1) Jaresh: "Had a MG team whose gunner died and vanished from the map. Later on I brought back the team to the spot where he died as I noticed his barely used MG lying on the floor."

2) Quote:

Originally Posted by Erwin

Can one pick up a weapon without giving buddy aid?

3) Wego: "In the case of HMG and mortar teams, yes. The mg\mortar is transferred to an active soldier without any buddy aid required. Done for balance reasons I believe, the teams would be a bit too fragile otherwise."

[Jaresh]

let's answer point 1) of clever Jaresh: same team member on the square where the MG is left but no picking up.. why? wait a few turns?