DeutschRitter Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I WANT cows for cover! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Hunter Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Damn cows.. Always desired in wargames due to hollywood. I played ARMA2 couple of weeks ago and stumbled upon bunch of cows. None made it out of that meeting alive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Damn cows.. Always desired in wargames due to hollywood. I played ARMA2 couple of weeks ago and stumbled upon bunch of cows. None made it out of that meeting alive. Lots of historical reasons for having cows and cow carcasses in Normandy, not just Hollywood. But we probably won't see them, or horses (even though the Germans had thousands of them) or sheep, or dogs (barking dogs alert the enemy), or whatever. Not alive anyway, though someone may some day mod a large carcass as a "flavor" object. The zoo, it ain't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Yes! I want too blow up some cows!. My old artillery unit accidently did this when some cows escaped from their pen during some training exercises, and wondered into the impact zone before the rounds started coming in. The farmer was pissed, but it was not the army's fault they got out and wonderd so far. I'm in the FDC and we here over the radio. Cease Fire! We got cows in the impact zone. LOL. I think an actual moving cow would just take extra memory, but dead ones in the form of flavor objects would be an idea for littering the battlefield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank Hunter Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Lots of historical reasons for having cows and cow carcasses in Normandy, not just Hollywood. But we probably won't see them, or horses (even though the Germans had thousands of them) or sheep, or dogs (barking dogs alert the enemy), or whatever. Not alive anyway, though someone may some day mod a large carcass as a "flavor" object. The zoo, it ain't. I'm not saying cows do not belong in Normandy, I'm just saying they are of no value to the game since they had no value in the reality. No tactics were drawn or used based on cows, they were just there. A movie showing soldiers hiding behind a dead cow does not make it a valid tactic in field. Did it happen real life? Probably somewhere. Did it change the course of battle, most likely not. There are tons of other features that are more important to add. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cull Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I'm not saying cows do not belong in Normandy, I'm just saying they are of no value to the game since they had no value in the reality. No tactics were drawn or used based on cows, they were just there. Because, inexplicably, both sides failed to train cows to become deadly roving herds of suicide bombers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Malcolm Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I seem to remember reading (in Hasting's 'Overlord' I think), that the stench in Normandy of dead cows (and horses, etc., as well as humans) was bad enough that recon aircraft were sometimes forced to fly higher. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I'm not saying cows do not belong in Normandy, I'm just saying they are of no value to the game since they had no value in the reality. No tactics were drawn or used based on cows, they were just there. A movie showing soldiers hiding behind a dead cow does not make it a valid tactic in field. Did it happen real life? Probably somewhere. Did it change the course of battle, most likely not. There are tons of other features that are more important to add. Oh, I agree, they would only have historical and visual context, not tactical. I never intended otherwise. Unless you count the negative morale effect of constantly having to smell their bloated carcasses for days on end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG11Preusse Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 I WANT cows for cover! i want more people who post senseless spamthreads 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFields Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 To be entirely practical (even to a somewhat silly thread), putting cows in would tax the computer system more--need every calculation to be for something important. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 To be entirely practical (even to a somewhat silly thread), putting cows in would tax the computer system more--need every calculation to be for something important. This game is already calculating and displaying leaves and grass waving in the wind along with vehicle interiors and fired mortar shell labels...a few dead cows lying around are hardly going to crash it or make it bog down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidFields Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Well then, bring on the cows. Though perhaps more for concealment than comver. (though that guy trying to hide himself in the goats in Hurt Locker didn't succeed very well) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbaker Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Without live cows, how can we: 1) Enjoy the scenario "Save the town from a stampede!" or the campaign "Save the town from some stampedes!" 2) Herd cattle from one side of a field to the other as MOBILE cover? Honestly, if the AI is going to rush a dismounted tank driver from the burning wreck of his Sherman at one end of a field straight across 200 yards of open ground at my MG-42, there's no way the gamey basterd is going to make it if he can't rely on the lee of a friendly cow or twenty. Obviously, his tacAI has come to the reasonable conclusion that if he's in a field, there must be cows. Please "fix or do somefink." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 The cows have it! Dead cow flavor objects! If we can't get cows then how about French whore flavor objects. They lean up against the buildings, and when the troops are by them they get a distraction penalty, Or better yet a simulation takes place where the troop has caught V.D. In this case it drops morale to -3, or -4. that's realistic, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedy Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I want cows with guns! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I want french whores with big tits! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJ62 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I knew I wasn't the only one, we need dead cows with flies and sfx. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak40 Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Damn cows.. Always desired in wargames due to hollywood. I played ARMA2 couple of weeks ago and stumbled upon bunch of cows. None made it out of that meeting alive. You're right, it was just Hollywood. http://www.pbs.org/thewar/images/objects/large/S1478.jpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Some say this thread is mostly bovine fecal material. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RookieCAF Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 This thread makes me want a Hamburger. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Cows in CM:BN: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 LOL! Gateway to the Reich.... (although Farmer Picky would like to point out that most Norman cattle didn't have the classic Holstein pattern). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunnergoz Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 LOL! Gateway to the Reich.... (although Farmer Picky would like to point out that most Norman cattle didn't have the classic Holstein pattern). Lord, another cow camo pattern grog... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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