Bombers

[Osoman]

I read earlier that England is recommended to scrap their heavy bomber research to do advanced subs instead, a move I always do myself.

Now I use bombers for scouting, reducing supply and sometimes when I really need to untrench or get a lucky finishing blow. Am I missing out?

I feel using bombers to destroy MMP on anything with +1 bomber defences is costing me more in repairs than the damage i do. This leads me to think that anti aircraft research also is a very low priority research.

I'd love to hear some success stories with bomber use!

Do you research Anti Aircraft, Heavy bombers or build bombers?

Are bombers fine? Do they need a nerf/buff?

Please share;)

[jon_j_rambo]

All depends on the opponent, the nation you're playing, tactical situation.

1) As England, why in the world would you research subs? UK barely has enough MMPs to survive, upkeep the RAF, & support troops across the globe. The UK has units & minor friends (Austrialia/New Zealand/India) in which you can't even afford to upgrade with starting tech. Come on man, subs for England, REALLY?

2) Of course, attack with some dud no-tech bomber against +1 AA is going to cost you. But what strength target are you hitting? What's the purpose of your bomber? If you have just one British Bomber with no tech, do you expect to start a bombing strategy? Get real. Use the one bomber for very key special support & spotting.

Success stories: I love the bombers. Double attacks, long range, spotting, fear of God, & mentally demoralizing to the enemy. In remote areas of the board in which the opponent has no fighter support, the bomber rules the area like a Queen in Chess. Bombing key ports at the exact time, leveling supply, cutting off operands.... There's another great use of bombers for the Axis on defense, but loose lips, sink ships.

[Osoman]

My mistake, what I meant to say was anti sub tech for england LOL.

Thats what I like to hear! I think ive been abit stuck in wanting to bomb west germany.

Anyone been harassed enough by bombers to want/get the antiair tech?

I'm gonna give the bomber a chance next game, hope to make it work.

[SeaMonkey]

I'm with JJR all the way on this one, bombers are awesome, especially if we get a third tech category for SC WW1.

Even in the mods I play, Al's and Nup's, where bombers have only a single strike, I buy, I tech and I selectively use. Think about this Oso, when do rebuilds not occur for your opponent?:cool:

[Osoman]

Paradigm shift! I was truly stuck in thinking bombers should mostly be used to kill economy. Cheers JJR, SM.

[jon_j_rambo]

Osoman, in a current game against JollyGuy, my Japs have Bomber+3, LR+2 in 1944. Bombers pound cities at will inside the Russian countryside. There's no way he can mount an offensive back towards Manchuria. I've got one of the bombers popping the oil in the Cacussus, its a beautiful thing.

Bombers are critical for stopping port landings all over the globe.

Far as that starting UK bomber, use for spotting early in the game, u know Nazi subs are everywhere. Maybe use UK bomber to destroy French ports to screw up SeaLion. Maybe send bomber to Africa to pound down Italian terror training in East Africa. Maybe put in Malta for spotting and tag ports.

Report for duty son,

-Legend

[Osoman]

Love the port landing tip! Does that also mean you can deny transports forming and escaping by getting a port low?

You got me. I'm a beliver now

[jon_j_rambo]

Ports below strength-5 cannot embark, this is huge. Except SForces are diff.

Ports below strenght-5 cannot disembark the same turn, leaving troops exposed & unused for an xtra turn.

So bombing Tobruk is a very common move by ppl, to slow up things for the enemy.

Bombing cities below 5 screws up land operands.

List goes on.

-Legend, in a corporate meeting always teaching

[Big Al]

I find if you dont invest im improved fighters you are boned in SC2. Air superiority is one of the most important aspects of the game. Thats one of the reasons I reduced the attack ability of tacticals and the # of strikes of strat bombers. If you are 2 levels behind in Advanced A/C you are dead.

I am liking the single escort, double intercept feature added. I think that greatly balanced the game. Early the Axis can attack expand and dominate with a better airforce and larger when focused on one opponent at a time. Late in the war the allies can bring to bear their airforce putting pressure on the Axis without overabusing the system because of dounble intercepts. If it wasnt there the allies would be 5 exp in 1943+.

1x strike bombers and escorts vs 2x intercept fighters are working for me well.