Flanker15 Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I was looking at it and noticed that it is quite empty, especially compared to TOW where the unit slection was one of the strongest features. This one has about 50 units with a grand total of 1 British tank, will there be (alot) more in the final release? While the lack of missions (will the total of 15 be increased?) can be fixed with the editor, adding new units is quite tricky for lone modders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand digger Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Churchill tank is a must as is the 17pdr AT gun. Not sure what a 25pdr AT gun is, unless its the usual 25pdr using AT shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 I'm pretty sure the 25 pounder is artillary, since they have on map arty this time. The cruiser tanks are vital too, it doesn't have the Matilda either. Also there's no Italians!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sand digger Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 From memory the Matilda had been withdrawn from service by '43; Valentine, Sherman and Churchill would have been the main tanks used by the Brits by then I think. Oh and they had a self propelled 25pdr, Priest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Oh and they had a self propelled 25pdr, Priest? That'd be the Sexton 25lber on a Sherman chassis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiloAlpha4 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 yep hopefully be a bit top heavy like it was and easy to tip on a steep inclination..be nice if that also happened in game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquess Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Will there be any italian units in the add-on? Was strange to me that ToW1 would have 4 allied campaigns including two with relative minor allied countries (France & Poland) and only 1 axis campaign. I must add that the Polish and French campaigs were very enjoyable as one does not often get to play those nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeroma Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hopefully that means we are Italians. I recall that in Africa from 1940 to 1943, the Italians were above number for the Germans, both in number of men and vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsair101 Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 Please excuse my ignorance, but where can I find this vehicle list? Thanks, Corsair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeroma Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 it is very easy to find a list of resources used by the Italian army. search on the Internet and found many. Anyway here is a list of most commonly used in africa: Semovente Fiat Ansaldo M 41 da 75/18 Semovente Fiat Ansaldo M 42 da 75/18 Carro armato Fiat Ansaldo M 13/40 Carro armato Fiat Ansaldo M 14/41 Carro armato Fiat Ansaldo M 15/42 Carro leggero Fiat Ansaldo L6 /40 Carro veloce Fiat Ansaldo L3/33 Carro veloce Fiat Ansaldo L3/35 Autoblindo Fiat SPA AB 42 Autoblindo Fiat SPA AB 43 Autocannone 75 C.K. su Ceirano 50 CM Autocannone 75/27 su SPA TL 37 Autocannone 76/30 su Lancia RO Autocannone 90/53 su Lancia 3RO Camionetta Fiat-SPA 43 AS42 "Sahariana" Autocarro unificato Fiat 666 Autocarro Fiat 618 M coloniale Autocarro Fiat 634 N Autocarro Alfa Romeo 500 Autocarro Isotta Fraschini D 70 Autocarro Dovunque Fiat-SPA 33 Autocarro Dovunque Fiat-SPA 35 Autocarro Dovunque Fiat-SPA-Breda 41 Camionetta mod. 42 sahariana Camionetta A.S. 43 Trattore Fiat-SPA TL 37 Trattore Pavesi 30-30A Trattore SPA TM 40 Trattore SPA 41 Trattore Breda 32-33-40-41 Motociclo Benelli 37 250 cc Autovettura Alfa Romeo 2500 CM Autovettura Lancia Aprilia coloniale tipo 97 Autocarretta OM Mod. 36 Obice da 75/13 Obice da 75/18 Mod. 34 Obice da 75/18 Mod. 35 Cannone da 75/27 Mod. 906 Cannone da 75/27 Mod. 911 Cannone da 75/27 Mod. 912 Cannone da 75/27 C.K. Cannone da 75/27 A.V. Cannone da 75/34 Cannone da 75/46 Mod. 34 A.A. Cannone da 76/40 no Cannone da 76/45 no Cannone da 77/28 Mod. 5 Cannone da 77/28 Mod. C.A. Obice da 100/17 Mod. 914 Obice da 100/17 Mod. 916 Cannone da 105/28 Obice da 149/13 Obice da 149/17 Obice da 149/19 Cannone da 149/35 Cannone da 149/35 S. Cannone da 149/35 A. Cannone da 149/40 Mod. 35 obviously these are just some regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostRider3/3 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 I dont believe the British had the 17lb gun until Normady, used most effectively on the Sherman "FireFly". was not put to service until 1943. I was not impressed with TOW1 very much, thought it was too glichy, editor sucked at least it seemed difficult to use. The Graphics are great in TOW2, but without being turned based I think it lost what made CMAK, and CMBB so great. If they improve the editor so that normal people can use it, and throw in as much detail that they did with CMBB, CMak, and redo CMBO that would be great. TOW2 looks great, introducing the US, british against the Germans, but if we can not relive the Good ole Rommel days fighting alongside the Italians vs the South Africans, New Zealanders, French, Ghurka, Indan, then to me what they are selling has lost some soul. Great graphics... but where is the meat? At least tell us there will be an editor to where you can employ the units from 1941 to 45? CMAK and CMBB has so much depth that if this game can not meet the same, then it really is not better, just better fluff and graphics. If you dont agree then tell me why you think TOW2 is much better than CMAK or CMBB besides graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneaksie Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 If you go to Modding forum, you'll see that normal people actualy can use the editors. I think it's somewhat pointless to compare CM and ToW since they were designed differently and arguing which game is better is like arguing what is better - beer or wine. Choosing turn-based or real-time game depends on your taste and it's not CMBB fault to be turn-based just like it's not ToW fault to be real-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akash Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 campaigns including two with relative minor allied countries (France & Poland) and only 1 axis campaign. I must add that the Polish and French campaigs were very enjoyabl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thadius Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Why is the list not broken down into 3 nations? Since the American forces were fighting from the west and Montgomery from the east. I know there were some British army units amongst the American forces but for the game you could split the two. The lack of British armour is a little disappointing also since N.Africa was a major theater for Britain and the Commonwealth. Italy not being present is a bit sad as well since this was their major theater as well. Hopefully we will see more British tanks and vehicles, and the Italians being added. I am still looking forward to the game just hope that the list will fill out a bit more with other tanks for Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flanker15 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Share Posted February 7, 2009 I think it isn't a full list since there are no Italian units on it and the Italians are mentioned as being in the game else-where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeroma Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 is not a list of vehicles that is in the game. is a part of the vehicles used in Italian africa from 1940 to 1943. is a list of resources that would be good if put in the new game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thadius Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 @Flanker15 Thats good to hear about the Italians, anyone got a link to where they have been mentioned? @Joeroma Thanks, I am glad that list isn't the complete version since TOW had many unit types and it would have been a shame to see less for what looks like a damn good sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandus Posted February 14, 2009 Share Posted February 14, 2009 The vehicle list on the TOW2-page does not really show major differences or expansions to the vehicles already implemented in TOW (1). Have there been any changes / updates since 4th August 2008? Ok, there are some “new” variants of Pzkw III + IV, the famous 8.8 cm FLAK, the lIG 7.5 cm IG-gun and a couple of new aircraft on the German side and the earlier version of the Stuart-Tank , the GMC M3 (with 75 mm AT-gun) the 2-pdr AT-gun and the Bofors AA-gun and also a couple of new planes on the allied side so far. Although it has been stated that Italian infanty is implemented in the new game I would appreciate some basic important Italian armored vehicles like the Autoblindo AB-41/42 (armored car), Semovente M 41/42 da 75/18 (self propelled gun) , the camionetta “sahariana” (multi-purpose reconnaissance vehicle) and the carri armati M 14/41 and/or M 15/42 (tanks) + some kind of Autocannone with some sort of AT/AA armament (Truck mounted guns). Concerning artillery, the standard Italian 47/32 AT-gun, Mitragliatrice Breda 20 mm AA/AT-gun and/or Cannone 75/46 AA-gun and some other sort of Italian 7.5 cm, 10 cm or 10.5 cm artillery would be fine. Of course the famous Macchi-200 or Fiat fighter aircraft and the SM-79 bomber aircraft would be nice. Are there any new allied units besides those already mentioned? Like the M 7 Priest self-propelled gun, the Churchill III Tank, M3 Grant / Lee variants, Bishop SP-gun , MK-IV /V Valentine and the Humber Mk II armored car, truck mounted 2- or 6-pdr AT-guns, American 37/55 M3A1 AT-guns? Any other German armoury? E.g. ”Marder” 7.5/7.62 cm SP-guns, Sd. Kfz. 233 (with 7.5 cm gun), single barreled AA-gun carriers, Sd. Kfz. 251/10 (half-truck with 3.7 cm AT-gun) , Sd. Kfz. 251/2 (with 81 mm mortar) and Sd. Kfz 251/9 (with 7,5 cm infantry gun), captured Valentine-tanks, captured APC M3s, 20 mm FLAK 38 AA-guns (not mounted), 5 cm, 6 cm, 3” and / or 81 mm mortar teams on map, AA-machineguns on vehicles/on the ground, Haftholladungen (magnetic HEAT-mines), HEAT-rounds for 3,7 AT-Gun PAK 35/36 (spigot), off-/on-board-arty like Nebelwerfer (rocket-propelled arty)? Can heavy machine guns be moved by its crew now and/or being placed on the roof/ 2nd floor of a building? Can heavy machine guns be placed in trenches now? (they have been far too vulnerable in TOW, I didn’t like to use them much in TOW as crews got killed to easily, except those in fortifications, and of course i coldn't move them!) Writing about fortifications, is there any new type of bunker in the game (e.g. AT-positions such as R-35 / H-35 turrets, Italian M 14 Tanks covered by rocks and turned into “mini-forts” , so-called “Ringstände “ or “Tobruk-Stände” (= bunkers entirely dug in with only a l-MG 34/42 placed in an open hatch and used in terrestrial- as well as in AA-rule ) )? Any 1-2 men foxholes (as in CM)? Do other vehicles, except those dedicated to AA-defense, now have AA-capacity e.g. browning 0.5 “, Bren or MG 34/42 machineguns mounted on APC M3s, APC Sd.Kfz. 250/251, Bren-carrier , jeeps, trucks, tanks, SPGs or the KwK-38 mounted on Sd.Kfz 222? Thank You for your answer! For me TOW is the best RTS-tactical game ever made so far – spasiva 1C and thank you battlefront for Your efforts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi100 Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 I have only just brought this game but I am really enjoying it. I'm a little fustrated with the lack of british tanks as well. I would have thought the Churchill would have been included. I would have also hoped for some 17lb guns as well. According to wiki (that reputable source) about 100 of the 17lb guns were rushed to the Middle East on 25lb gun carriges to counter the Tiger threat. They first saw action in Feb 1943. Is it me or or is any one else wondering why the British can't use the M4 or M3 tanks? I guess it may come down to those talented individuals who can mod the game for the rest of us. Still it won't stop me playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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