Cpl Steiner Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi, If the game ever does everything it says on the tin it will be great. Unfortunately it hangs pretty much 100% of the time I play it! I have played QBs, Battles, and the first mission of the training campaign 6 or 7 times, and get a hang 100% of the time part way through each scenario. Strangely, performance seems fine up until the hang - no slowdowns or anything. One minute I'm enjoying the game, the next its completely frozen. I then use Alt-Ctrl-Del to shut down the game. Sometimes a hard reset has been required. Sometimes I have no mouse pointer and have to use the tab key to shut down the game. My Specs are as follows: Game Version: BFC Direct Download 1.01 Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 3800+ 2.01GHz with 2GB of RAM Geforce 7600GT PCI-E Graphics Card (not sure of RAM on it, how do I check?) Latest graphics drivers, downloaded from nVidia and installed yesterday: Driver Version: 6.14.11.6218 Driver Date: 29/06/2007 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Steiner, 1. Try the MS hotfix posted all over for multiple cpu problems. 2. If still an issue, have you applied either of these from AMD? http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/utilities/amdcpusetup.exe Rune 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stransky Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I have the same problems as Steiner with almost identical hardware. I have installed the MS Hotfix and that solved the flickering graphics problem but not the hanging issue. Game Version: BFC Direct Download 1.01 Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 3800+ 2.01GHz with 2GB of RAM, Driver version 1.3.2.0 and date 2006-05-27 Geforce 7900GT/GTO PCI-E Graphics Card 256 mb nVidia driver 6.14.10.9424 and date 19/04/2007 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi again, I have applied the MS hot-fix. I have also applied the AMD CPU setup exe. The AMD Dual Core optimizer is already installed (I did that for problems I had with "Theatre of War" ages ago). I have also tried setting the affinity to only one core. I am still getting a 100% hang within minutes of starting the first Training Campaign scenario (not exactly a graphically taxing one, I might add). In two recent attempts to run this scenario I experienced the following: When I targeted a trench with my 40mm grenade launcher using area fire, then right-clicked, it hung immediately afterwards. On the second attempt, it hung apparently randomly although I may have been moving the mouse to scroll the map at the time. However, on this occasion, every one of my units teleported to the far right corner of the map at the same time that it hung. Hope this helps. By the way, I test games for a living and I see hangs all the time even from big names like EA so don't sweat it - just sort it out as soon as you can . Cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catacol Highlander Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Ho hum... someone else who has teleporting units to the far right corner. That has happened to me too and the frequent hangs have me hacked off. I am also a dual core AMD user. Performance up until the hangs is great, but unplayable as it stands. Cheers Al 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarUSF Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Which version of the game are you running with the teleporting units? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catacol Highlander Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Running version 1.01 as downloaded earlier as a pre-order customer. Just had another hang - I've not managed more than 3 consecutive turns without a crash, but only seen teleporting units once Cheers Al 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_Squid Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hangs and freezes here aswell, BF download. can at times play for up to 20 minutes but then game stops responding AMD 64 x2 4600 2 gig ram GeForce 7950 256mb XP SP 2 AMD dual core optimizer and MS hotfix installed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelco Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hangs badly in my: AMD Athlon 64X2 5000+ NVidia 7600GT 256Mb 2 Gigs RAM Windows XP Pity, because the gameplay blows away anything that I have played before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarUSF Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 I was getting teleportation while I did my review, and they did a fix in 1.01 that solved it. From the looks of it, I think the culprit is the Athlon 64 X2 processor: that is the commonality (I also have an Athlon 64 X2). I haven't played a non-beta version of 1.01 yet so I don't know if I still have the lockups. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catacol Highlander Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 OK - I have just tried my last game of the evening, and after 2 turns over half my forces teleported to the other side of the map. It happened during the replay of a turn based game, about 10 secs into the replay. No crash however. I just quit in disgust. I've now seen the teleport thing twice in about 7 or 8 attempted games. Fortunately ( I suppose) I am off on a rugby tour of South America in a few days time so I will have distractions to keep my mind off this, and I hope this is sorted soon. Cant help feeling that us AMD dual core users have had a raw deal - surely the dual core AMD chips are not so new that this fairly fundamental bug (freezes and teleportations) could have been missed? I am a huge fan of CM and have played it constantly for 7 years, but I have to say that if I went to my local PC games shop and bought a game that did this I would now be planning to take it back first thing tomorrow. As its BFC I wouldn't dream of doing this, even if I could, but I have to admit to being disappointed. Cheers Al 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted July 27, 2007 Author Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi again, Been doing some more tests and thought I had figured the problem when I finally got to complete the first mission of the Training Campaign. When I completed it I had resolution set to "Desktop", the in-game antialiasing option set to "off", syncing set to "on" and I set my video card to have x2 antialiasing and x4 anistropic filtering outside of the game. This got me thinking that the problem was that I had been using an in-game resolution setting of 1280x960. I do this with most games because my monitor's default resolution, that I use for my desktop, is 1280x1024 and that isn't a correct 4:3 ratio like most games expect. However I've since tried it again with the above settings and it hung with the teleport problem again so it can't just be as simple as that. I hope someone at BFC or paradox has just run out to borrow a PC of my spec to thrash this out on as I don't see how it can be resolved otherwise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelco Posted July 27, 2007 Share Posted July 27, 2007 Hi, I disabled the f@#$%ng Norton Internet Security and I played a whole battle to the end without hangs. Could it be? P/S: The C2 system of this game (Elite skill) is totally awesome! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarUSF Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I got the final 1.01 install and I can confirm that I am getting the teleportation bug again. Weird since it was fixed in one of the beta versions of the 1.01 patch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlefront.com Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 The teleportation bug is likely symptomatic of what eventually causes the game to crash. It looks like the common thread with you guys is: nVidia card (7xxx or 8xxx) 32 bit Windows OS (XP or Vista) Multi-processor This is good info guys! I think we're getting things narrowed down a bit more. Steve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelco Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I had the following problems: -Teleportation -Voices overlapping massively -Hang up after that All my problems gone now. I insist on Norton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 Originally posted by Cpl Steiner: performance seems fine up until the hangI think my statement above regarding performance needs correcting. I have now noticed quite a lot of slowdown. The first mission of the main campaign game (night battle with 4 M1s leading the way) was very choppy. Considering my system spec, and reading how it runs smooth as silk on some ancient machines with much lower specs, this is not right. As I said in another thread, my PC handles every other game I throw at it with no visible slowdown - including "Medieval II Total War" which I believe is a graphically demanding game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenGod Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I'm getting a hang / crash after a random amount of time when clicking a unit or issuing an order. It normally happens very quickly (I don't last through the setup phase of the first tutorial normally, and rarely through the first turn). The game freezes and gives an error message related to my ATI drivers. Athlon 64 3500+ 2GB RAM Vista 32bit Home Premium Radeon x1800xl 256mb This may or may not be related, but clicking on vehicles is very wonky. Selecting a vehicle or placing a movement cursor over a vehicle (say, to load infantry) results in a 5-10 second "hang" for the game before the unit gets selected or infantry gets loaded. Oddly, this delay is minimized by setting the graphics to the minimums, but it still exists and I cannot select vehicles without some level of freeze up. I'll be getting parts for my Core 2 Duo / Geforce 8800GTS system delivered on Monday, so I'll be able to see if I get this hang / crash on that system as well. But whatever the issue with hanging on unit selection is, it isn't limited to just multicore CPUs and nvidia cards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenGod Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Ah, I forgot to mention that I tried both the Catalyst 7.6 and 7.7 drivers and got the crash with both. Performance seems to be perfect right up until the crash as well, with the exception of my system choking when selecting vehicles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 It is pretty obvious to me from JaguarUSF's remarks that something that was fixed in beta testing has somehow had its workaround left off in the actual release. Version control? I used to work in a software house so I know these things can happen. Maybe BFC should check this out as a priority? Posted by JaguarUSF 20 July 2007: The teleportation problem is a confirmed fix for 1.01 (I have personally seen it), which will be the release version available from Battlefront. Posted by JaguarUSF 27 July 2007: I got the final 1.01 install and I can confirm that I am getting the teleportation bug again. Weird since it was fixed in one of the beta versions of the 1.01 patch. P.S. - If it does turn out to be as simple as a fix being missed off the final build then BFC should release a new patch immediately as it has already been tested. I don't see the need for weeks of testing in a case like this. [ July 28, 2007, 12:00 AM: Message edited by: Cpl Steiner ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Task Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I didn't have this problem when I played the demo. After downloading and installing the full game I am experiencing this issue. In the training scenario my units teleported and the game froze. I tried the first mission in the campaign and the game simply freezes whenever it feels like it. Performance up to the point of the game becoming non-responsive is great. I thought it was a dual core issue, so I tried setting .exe to operate only on one CPU, but the problem persists. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalbrew Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I have an AMD X2 and an nVidia 8800 card. I'm seeing the teleportation bug in 50% of my games. It was rude when it first happened, I thought I had missed some vital part of the playback where a unit broke a ran away. Turns out I'm still crazy but this time it wasn't my mistake. Incidentally, the whole team/squad doesn't necessarily transport. I've had several examples where only 2 of 3 guys in the MG team transported. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl Steiner Posted July 28, 2007 Author Share Posted July 28, 2007 Hi again, I downloaded the demo and installed that just to see if it was any better. Performance-wise it seemed a bit faster and I did manage to finish the training mission. However, it hung towards the end of playing the night battle mission (no teleporting this time though). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars107 Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 I have the same problem as stated by previous posters. When starting a battle it runs without any performance problems. Then after a random time the game freezes and I have to kill the application. Most of the times (maybe always) the freeze happened when giving some command with the mouse. So far I was never able to finish a battle during my 10 attempts. AMD 64 x2 3800 2 gig ram GeForce 7800 GT XP SP 2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolloff Posted July 28, 2007 Share Posted July 28, 2007 Same here as what Lars has reported. No odd graphical glitches, it just freezes on me and I can´t see a pattern or even provoke it. Edit: Lowered Options for 3D Model Quality and 3D Texture Quality from Better to Improved and had teleporting units during the second turn. On "Better" I haven´t seen this happening before. It rarely if ever happens in the short Training Campaign games but when I try to play the first scenario of the "real" campaign I´ve not yet been able to complete it without a freeze. My system: AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4200+ NVidia GeForce 7800 GTX 1 Gig RAM Windows XP Home Drivers are up-to-date, applied the AMD Dual Core patch mentioned in the other threads. thread. [ July 28, 2007, 03:58 AM: Message edited by: Nolloff ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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