Statisoris Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Hi all, Since the Marine module news was released, I've been looking into the details of a lot of USMC equipment. Specifically, I've been reading about how the USMC Abrams differ from Army tanks. From reading all around, I've seen it mentioned repeatedley that USMC Abrams commonly have ATGM defense systems installed, below is a snippet of some text I found on the subject. "...M1A1's of the US Marine Corps, are equipped with a Missile Countermeasure Device that can detect and jam the guidance systems of laser-guided anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM)[1]. This device is mounted on the turret roof in front of the Loader's hatch, and can lead some people to mistake Abrams fitted with these devices for the M1A2 version, since the Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer on the latter is mounted in the same place, though the MCD is box-shaped and fixed in place as opposed to cylindrical and rotating like the CITV." I was just wondering how widespread this detection and jamming equipment really is and if it will be modeled in the Marines Module. Also, if anyone knows, could you list the most notable differences between Army and USMC Abrams. [ May 05, 2008, 11:25 PM: Message edited by: Statisoris ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Statisoris, Thanks much for this! Remember being absolutely baffled by what I was seeing during OIF TV coverage in Baghdad, having never seen a thing on CITV installation on Marine M1A1s. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luderbamsen Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Originally posted by John Kettler: Statisoris, Thanks much for this! Remember being absolutely baffled by what I was seeing during OIF TV coverage in Baghdad, having never seen a thing on CITV installation on Marine M1A1s. Regards, John Kettler Me too. I even told some poor sod that M1A1's now sported a "fixed FLIR" Thankfully, no one "in the know" heard me make a fool of myself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin.Rommel Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Originally posted by John Kettler: Statisoris, Thanks much for this! Remember being absolutely baffled by what I was seeing during OIF TV coverage in Baghdad, having never seen a thing on CITV installation on Marine M1A1s. Regards, John Kettler I have seen this kind of device in some pictures of the US mrine,the shape of this device is similar to the CITV,however it is smaller 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 Statisoris, What, then, are we to make of this piece on the FEP? http://www.deagel.com/Main-Battle-Tanks/M1A1-Abrams_a000516002.aspx Note from this that the Marines are apparently quite concerned with very long range gunnery. A Challenger 2 got a kill at 5 km during OIF. http://www.army-technology.com/projects/abrams/ Note also how the Marine tweaks address some of the issues here. http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/1989/GKJ.htm Argghh! Great pic; cover on device! http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/tank/M1/M1A1_00.jpg Judging from this, it's also tied into antifratricide measures. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2005_June_13/ai_n13809506 Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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