Destraex Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 steal beasts pro PE - modern but could be good - its shipping now steelbeasts.com T72 is pretty good, it would be cool if their were expansions with more interesting tanks though. Not sure about steal beasts as it is very veryt expensive [ADMIN: commercial link edited] [ March 07, 2006, 07:23 AM: Message edited by: Moon ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanker0815 Posted March 4, 2006 Share Posted March 4, 2006 Originally posted by Destraex: steal beasts pro PE - modern but could be good - its shipping now http://www.steelbeasts.com/ T72 is pretty good, it would be cool if their were expansions with more interesting tanks though. Not sure about steal beasts as it is very veryt expensive Thanks for the link, I've bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I got my version of SBPPE yesterday. I played the predecessor (Steal Beasts Gold) several times and knew what to expect. SBPPE is worth any penny IMHO, but it's a different piece of software then T72. SBPPE is used by the military forces of several countries as a tactical simulator. So it is complex! The learning curve is steep and if one hasn't used the SB1 before, one should play the tutorials step by step. It's time consuming, but when you have mastered the controls, you'll never want to go back! In one word: it's awesome! Now the downsides: There's no campaign, no "game", the graphics are well done, but not as good as in T72. It's challenging, but if you are serious in learning the in and out of modern tank warfare, there's no alternative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanker0815 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by Argus: I got my version of SBPPE yesterday. I played the predecessor (Steal Beasts Gold) several times and knew what to expect. SBPPE is worth any penny IMHO, but it's a different piece of software then T72. SBPPE is used by the military forces of several countries as a tactical simulator. So it is complex! The learning curve is steep and if one hasn't used the SB1 before, one should play the tutorials step by step. It's time consuming, but when you have mastered the controls, you'll never want to go back! In one word: it's awesome! Now the downsides: There's no campaign, no "game", the graphics are well done, but not as good as in T72. It's challenging, but if you are serious in learning the in and out of modern tank warfare, there's no alternative! I suppose you are living in germany right? Is there any german "Tank squad" I can join or something else? I now payed 125 dollar for it, and I want to play this sim with some guys. When the time comes where I hold the SB PE box in my hand (and I'm sure it's in a view days) I want some guys I can play with! Any german "SB PE Tank Squads" out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 I've ordered it despite the apparent lack of playable Russian and UK tanks and the bias to western vehicles. I consider the high price worth it as long as the investment is repaid with free addons and support. There are about 25 single missions as well as tutorial missions and the missions editor is apparently quite easy to use. It shouldn't be long before additional mission content is added by the community. If you watch some of the videos of the "gameplay" I am sure you will agree that it looks pretty amazing to use even at this early stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by Tanker0815: I suppose you are living in germany right? Is there any german "Tank squad" I can join or something else? ... Any german "SB PE Tank Squads" out there? Yes, you are right, I'm writing from Düsseldorf, Germany. Unfortunately I don't know of other German players or SBPPE Squads. I would be glad to try the multiplayer mode, but I won't have enough time to get part of a virtual squad with frequent online sessions. But I'm pretty sure that at least a few SBPPE squads are out there, because part of the dev team and the beta test crew work from Germany. You might contact them in the SB forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanker0815 Posted March 5, 2006 Share Posted March 5, 2006 Originally posted by Argus: I would be glad to try the multiplayer mode, but I won't have enough time to get part of a virtual squad with frequent online sessions. But I'm pretty sure that at least a few SBPPE squads are out there, because part of the dev team and the beta test crew work from Germany. You might contact them in the SB forum.Okay thank you for the information. I will register on these forums to get in touch with the SB folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Smith Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I have T72 and like it a lot, but I bought SB Pro PE - Argus is right, they are very different things, but there's nothing like SB Pro PE as an armour sim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gato Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 http://cms.panzergrenadierbrigade16.de/news.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanker0815 Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 Originally posted by Gato: http://cms.panzergrenadierbrigade16.de/news.php As soon as I hold my Copy of SB PE in my hands I will register there... Nice site btw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejan_SCG Posted March 6, 2006 Share Posted March 6, 2006 I will buy SB PE when I get 125 dollars, until that happens I just have to play T-72. One more thing, those screen-shots are nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Steiner Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I just ordered my copy of SBProPE this evening. Although I do enjoy T-72 BoF, and hope to see continued support and add-ons for the franchise, SBProPE is a different product altogether. I believe they both have their individulal niche and unique strengths. And let's be honest, quality tank sims are unfortunately, too far and few between. [ March 07, 2006, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Sgt.Steiner ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Bull's eye, Steiner! I fully agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes, I agree, too, especially because of the *slightly* different price tags (Which is why I haven't bought it yet, I personally find it too expensive for myself; not enough of a tanker I guess...) Now as much as I like SB myself and am happy to support these guys, I do have to enforce the non-commerce rules and edit some of the links posted here. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanker0815 Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Just some last questions to those who have it already... Can I drive the tank? I have read on several sites which have tested SB PE that it is only crewable as commander and gunner! Can somebody describe a bit more of the possibilities to navigate the tank and how the tank behaviour is in general? Is it the same feeling as in BoF? And which of the tanks have the nice 3D interiors? There is such a lack of information for this sim... No description from the devs... nothing. Just curious. Would be great if somebody can answer my questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Yes, you can drive the crewable tanks. Control can be via mouse/keys or joystick. Most people don't bother however as gunner and commander positions are a lot more fun. The feeling of being within, and driving in, a tank is way more immersive than T-72 mainly due to the excellent turret views, 3d interiors and amazing sounds. I am quickly getting used to it now and T-72's external view only system seems quite primitive in comparison. M1A1, Leo2 and Bradley have the 3d interiors, possibly others too, but I haven't tried them yet. Other 3d interiors will be added when countries with those tanks (eg. T-72) decide to buy into the simulator to train their crews, thus paying for the 3d interiors to be created and supplying the necessary access to information. So far the UK has not bought into the simulator so no Challenger unfortunately but the T-72 will definatley be in the sim eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 All tanks that can be controlled by the player have a basic driver view (F9). But it's in all tanks the same and reminds me as if SBPPE has seen T-72 and quickly adapted that feature... Tankbuster is right, most of the time you won't bother driving the tank in SBPPE, because there's so much else to do, that you propably want to concentrate on more important things at hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbuster Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 And the driver view is plug ugly too - another reason not to spend much time in there. The texture around the view slit is terrible and really needs to be re-done soon. The driving controls and view in T-72 are far superior imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Steiner Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 There are three good quality videos of some SB Pro PE in-game FRAPS footage which shows some tank interiors along with some battle footage too. They're available here, for those interested. There are more videos available at the site, but these are some of the better ones--quality wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Hi guys, this is the forum for T72, not for Steel Beasts, sorry. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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