Checkmate King 2 Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 How about a TBF Avenger or SBD Dauntless on the list or "idea" page for future upgrades? [ January 30, 2006, 08:31 AM: Message edited by: Checkmate King 2 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartbert Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I believe the Dauntless is already available isn't it? Or did you have something else in mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate King 2 Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Brian, You are right. Dauntless is already in the game. The picture of the airplane in the game always throws me off since when I picture a Dauntless, I picture it as having both cockpit windows open, not closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hmm... I'll see if I can "open" the windows when I re-do the SBD animations. If anyone has any specific aircraft that they would like to see added, please post them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Ok I will start with Ki-84 and you can just go straight up the Ki-xxx list. Also I would like to see some of the Soviet jet planes as before I started looking at how awesome thier planes were I never knew. The BI jet plane never made it operational but I would love to see it modeled. Think it would have been a good counter to the Me-163 and Me 262. Also love to see the Spit IV. And French Planes and Polish planes and even a few more American ones. But most of all I want to see the MC 2005!!! Thats Italian for Damn awesome plane, please make me for this game! I guess if you do another 100 planes we still will want more. And when you make a modern DIF sim I can think of a hundred more!!!!!! -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 The B1 was a rocket, not a jet There were only so many Soviet planes in the war - I listed them in my VVS thread - a few others like the Pe-3 were produced in a few hundreds, but then phased out. I'd like to see the Italians, and the Roumanian IAR 81, the Polish PZL's, US P43 and P66 flown by Chinese, a few more marks of Spitfire - IIb with cannon, IX would cover it I think, ut a XII could be in there too - as an unturbocharged XIV. Six there was no production Mk IV SPitfire!! I think a modificatoin for clipped wings might be useful - give the a/c 1 extra performance at low and v.low, but -1 at high and v.high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakespeed Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 If you are looking at aircraft, this is what I'd like to see: USA P-36A P-39D/N/Q P-61B F6F-3/5 F3F-1 F8F-1 P-47N A-20B/C/G B-26 A-26 B-24D/J TBF-1 SB2C-4 GERMANY He-112 He-100D Ta-152 Me-262 Fw-190D Me-110G He-219A Ho-229 Ju-88A Hs-123 Hs-129B Do-17Z Ju-52 Me-110D BRITIAN Whirlwind Defiant Spitfire Mk.IX Fulmar Tempest Typhoon Meteor Mk.I Battle Roc Hampden Halifax Maryland Baltimore JAPAN Claude Tony (Ki-100 Radial) Frank George Sam (A7M2) Tojo Shinden (Prop and Jet) Kikka Rob Sally Lily Ann Sonia Val Peggy Helen Topsy Liz Mavis Emily FRANCE Morane 406 Hawk 75 Dewoitine 520 Bloch 152 Potez 63-11 Arsenal VG-33/39 Bloch 174 Amiot 154 Leo 451 Potez 631 LN-411 Farman 222 RUSSIA Yak-3 Yak-9 La-5 La-7 I-153 I-15 I-16 MiG-3 Yak-4 P-39 IL-2 Tu-2 Pe-2 Yak-6 Pe-8 ITALY Cr-32 Cr-42 Re-2000 Re-2001 Re-2002 Re-2005 Mc-200 Mc-202 Mc-205 Fiat G-50 Fiat G-55 Br-20 Sm-79 Sm-81 Ca-311/313 CANT Z-501 Piaggio P-108b Well, you asked...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate King 2 Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 Originally posted by Dan Verssen: Hmm... I'll see if I can "open" the windows when I re-do the SBD animations. If anyone has any specific aircraft that they would like to see added, please post them here. Dan, What about changing the picture of the SBD so it is in sunlight with a nice blue background,( like the Wildcat background) and a nice side view (also like the Wildcat picture), having open windows, showing the rear gunner position, and also showing the perforated metal dive-brakes on the wings (its trademark, in my opinion). :cool: My reason for this is that the Dauntless made history in the Battle of Midway by helping change the tide in the Pacific in favor of the Allies. In the current picture of the Dauntless, the blue is too dark. I believe a nice blue sky would help show the details of the airplane better and be more realistic of good attack weather. [ January 30, 2006, 05:11 PM: Message edited by: Checkmate King 2 ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 Excellent feedback! I have made this a feature topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate King 2 Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 If the TBF Advenger ever becomes a chosen update, a picture of it from the rear starboard side would be a good choice. This way the trademark rear gunner position enclosed in glass and the the rear access door could be shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM72 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 My proposal: the German Do-335 Arrow (Pfeil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Oh - you want specifics!! Germany - Fw 190D - major fighter of the late war, much more important than any of the others people have listed - including the 262!! Britain: Spitfire IX, closely followed by the Typhoon or Tempest (pref both). The IX was THE major british interceptor 1942-44. USA: F6F Hellcat - a major gap, otherwise I think the Yanks are fairly well covered. Japan - Ki-84 and Ki-100 have got to be the next ones - they already have too many in their line up that never actually saw production - I understand the A6M8, as it uses the same model as the earlier A6's, but the Randy was a disappointment IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I've been doing research, and it looks like the F4U and F6F are pretty much the same. Any ideas on what might separate them in terms of performance, firepower, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM72 Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 Originally posted by Dan Verssen: I've been doing research, and it looks like the F4U and F6F are pretty much the same. Any ideas on what might separate them in terms of performance, firepower, etc.? I think it depends on the fighter model (first production, last production?!). Performance could be the same, horsepower could be different but firepower should be different. F4U: -Maximum speed: 446 mph (717 km/h) -Service ceiling: 41,500 ft (12,649 m) -Rate of climb: 3,100 ft/min (945 m/min) Armament -6x .50 cal Browning M2 machine guns (F4U-4) or -4x 20mm Hispano cannon (F4U-4B or C) F6F: -Maximum speed: 376 mph (612 km/h) -Service ceiling: 37,300 ft (11,369 m) -Rate of climb: 3500 ft/min (1067 m/min) Armament - 6x .50 cal Browning M2 machineguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakespeed Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I'd say the F6F was more "robust" than the F4U and could take a bit more of a pounding, I just think it'd be cool to play a bunch of different aircraft even if they are relatively the same statistically, but I realize it's a PITA and a lot of hard work to you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 31, 2006 Share Posted January 31, 2006 I think htere's sufficient gap betwen the F4F and the F4U to slot the F6 - 5 performance vs 7 leaves 6 spare The F6 would, I think, have the following: Perf 6 Hp 3 Bursts/Damage 1/0 Airframe 7 Special: None Wing offence: 2 Wing defence: 2 Not a lot of difference you may think, but quite significant in a game where 1 extra card really does matter! The F6 was considered "easy meat" by experienced Jap pilots in some of their later a/c, but shuold be much better than the F4 and more than a match for the A6M2 - which I think this would make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Originally posted by Dan Verssen: I've been doing research, and it looks like the F4U and F6F are pretty much the same. Any ideas on what might separate them in terms of performance, firepower, etc.? The Navy did not use the Corsair because they thought it was inadequate for carrier ops. So they gave it to the Marines to use. The Marines used it to good advantage in ground support operations and air cover. And they showed the Navy it could be used on carrier ops. Performance depends on model but believe the Hellcat could take a bit more punishment. This of course is subjective. They both were good planes and the Japanese respected both. To exclude a plane because a plane that is already in the game performs nearly the same I think is a poor excuse. While I realize that it is more work on your end to code and draw the graphics, for us "historical minded" players that want to see a more historical head to head match up by period, I think it essential that the Corsair be included. Marine Corps ace Pappy Boyington got the majority of his kills flying Corsairs with VMF-214, the "Black Sheep" squadron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Verssen Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Hello Steve, I don't mind including both aircraft. I just want to make sure the reasearch I've done matches up with the research that others might have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dan, Sending you a file which contains data on each. You may already have info. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Beergut Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Lots of planes to drool over! If I were to pick just one per country, for Germany I definitely agree that the 190D should be in here! US: P36, maybe, but only to replace the P35 currently in the game. P39 would be good as it was also sent lendlease to Russia. So until they bring Russia into the game, it could be used as a substitute Russia. Brit -- the Spit IX maybe to replace the V currently in the game as it seems more common. Japanese: I'm not as smart on them, but the Claude & Frank I think were fairly common to justify their inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skolman Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 the defiant would be great, but difficult to incoorperate in the game. would need some new rules... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winston O'Boogie Posted February 8, 2006 Share Posted February 8, 2006 Hi I would likt to see the "Martin Baker" Aircraft included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hi , Just for reference, i found out this site with some pacific theatre planes. Maybe it can help. http://www.compass.dircon.co.uk/cap.htm Also this one is very nice http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org Best regards Pedro [ February 17, 2006, 12:38 PM: Message edited by: Kindred ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixxkiller Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hi Kindred, The warbirds is one of the absolute best sites on warfare. I love it!!!! -Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checkmate King 2 Posted February 19, 2006 Author Share Posted February 19, 2006 Originally posted by Kindred: Hi , Just for reference, i found out this site with some pacific theatre planes. Maybe it can help. http://www.compass.dircon.co.uk/cap.htm Also this one is very nice http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org Best regards Pedro Thanks Kindred; I've never came across those sites before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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