TaoJah Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Just a post to keep you all, well, posted ! My latest game against the Allied AI on the highest difficulty settings went like this. As usual, I took all of Europe : Poland, Denmark, Benelux, France, Vichy France, Portugal, Tunis, Norway, Sweden, United Kingdom. But this time... I bribed Spain. Every single point of German MPP went to diplomacy for Spain. Once Italy joined, their MPPs went also to Spain and Spain only. Obviously, Spain joined and their army (included a Headquarter) was mine ! I used them to take Portugal and Gibraltar, so I could invade the UK ALOT ALOT ALOT faster. After the UK, I reinforced all my troops in the UK and transported tham by sea to the Russian front. The game was over in december 19... 41. That's right, Major Axis Victory by december 1941. Once again : the AI needs, euh, "fine-tuning". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhorse Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Use the editor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Either that or, Become Zen Horse Warrior And very patiently wait For great AI improvements. :cool: Soon coming to a Theatre near you! Or, Do like Van Morrison, (... who wrote the following lyrics & music) And... ______________________________________________ We were born before the wind Also younger than the sun Ere the bonnie boat was won As we sailed into the mystic Hark, now hear the sailors cry Smell the sea and feel the sky Let your soul and spirit fly Into the mystic And when that fog horn blows I will be coming home And when that fog horn blows I want to hear it I don't have to fear it I want to rock your gypsy soul Just like way back in the days of old Then magnificently we will float Into the mystic And when that fog horn blows You know I will be coming home And when that fog horn whistle blows I got to hear it I don't have to fear it _______________________________________ Now there! Is some poetry for ya, Blackhorse! LOL! I was only SP5-E5, back when, but even I Can tell who can really finely Rhyme - and, scansion them lines! What a fabulous Sunday! Life is for... having FUN! Whilst you can still run! And leap and run some more and collapse Then! In a new-mown grass-heap ! It's... mystic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhorse Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 LoL Desert Dave...good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Blackhorse, Cavalry has ALWAYS been vital, Even if now imagined as helicopters Dropping roughed cats on LZ, Whether, Feudal Knights, Apaches racing bare-back, Patton on his polo-pony (... JK! LOL! ) Caballeros galloping Over rocky ground, reaching down To snatch the ladies kerchief, or Cossacks on the ransack. You know, How I see it, No matter all this robotic machinery And earth-busting stuff, One of these days... yeah, It's how we as Species seem to be headed, (... can notice from simply reading through an ordinary forum, IE, the increasing lack of honor and courtesy) The one dedicated hard-rider Scanning far horizons on horse-back, Will be King - of all he surveys, yea, All over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaoJah Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Originally posted by Blackhorse: Use the editor I play the game as it is "intended" and make these reports so that Hubert sees what the AI does wrong in them. How else can he correct it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 @ToJo --- Great report son, lots of great H2H action available, join the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 'Without JAH , nothing...' P.O.D. sings this TaoJ - no matter how many improvements Hubert will bring to the AI, it will forever remain 'scripted', it will take a choice out of 3, 4,5 available. In a few games you'll be yelling again, omfg the dorky AI did this or didn't do that. What the designer can do , is to provide the average SC2-er (the vast majority in fact, who don't play h2h) with a few moments of enjoyment by polishing the AI more, he can never make a human out of it. Use the AI to learn the game and listen to ol' stars'n'stripe and play humans. It is a different world, trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Originally posted by Blackhorse: Use the editor blackhorse, you're the man !!! You really shined with this line ... With one, two more like this and Hubert can use your thoughts and opinions for a sc2 manual addendum or something ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yep, far as the A.I., it's a pipe dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 jjr, Or someone Looks an awful lot like 'im Recently seen Living out 'is pipe dream, On Boise street corner: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Dave Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Yeah, yeah, Kuni, I know. In time it took to find and post This historical PIC, I coulda been doing something else Like - secretly inserting ALL your preferred WW-2 leaders Into SC-2 OOB. However, Many had wondered: How in dickens did rambo jr Get ahold of alla that dough He waves around so, so He could - into Eternity! Extoll virtues of unfettered Capitalism! LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiser Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 JJR, imagine that some freakish AI is gonna cook yer dinner in 20 years or so ... scary, eh? You gotta buy those updated scripts or else you'll be eating at MC'D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I myself am sadly disapointed with the AI based soley on the fact that although some changes were made, it seems to be relativly the same as SC1! the AI still has no clue how to conduct a proper battle and attempt to encircle the enemy forces. The AI still never attempts to trap or trick the player with diversionary tactics or coordinated attacks. It is sad indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Sad? No, expected. I posted this 4 years ago after first playing SC-1 for 15 minutes. The A.I. doesn't count. If you didn't live on your Mom's computer or ran your household correctly, you'd have time to play TCP/IP against caliber opponents. "You gotta fight, for your right, to party" --- Beastie Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaoJah Posted April 26, 2006 Author Share Posted April 26, 2006 Originally posted by Night: I myself am sadly disapointed with the AI based soley on the fact that although some changes were made, it seems to be relativly the same as SC1!In my experience, it is worse : I never achieved a major victory at the highest difficulty setting by november 1941 in SC 1. I'm playing as Allied now, that's even worse : it's December 1940, his fleet is wiped out and he still has to take France :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_j_rambo Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I told you so. Kids, get in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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