Wolfe Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Been working on my charts for CMBB for over a week now, and have mostly finished the unit stats listing. They can be D/Led from my site: Chris' CM Database They come in Excel format. If you don't have Excel, you can download the free Excel viewer for Windows from Microsoft. I haven't done the gun penetration or infantry firepower charts yet. They're next (but don't hold your breath; it might be a while). I don't think I'll bother with the arty ETA stuff this time. It was a PITA doing it for CMBO, and I'd rather not repeat the experience. If someone wants to do those, knock yourself out. There are probably still some typos in the charts. If you see any, please let me know. And I hope I got all the units, but it's very possible I missed a couple. I only listed the beginning availability date, but thankfully Marcus Bloess did an excellent job with his own Unit Availability charts. Check them out over at: New Unit Availability Charts. Enjoy! - Chris [ December 24, 2002, 11:11 AM: Message edited by: Wolfe ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 Go, Wolfe, go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subvet Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Thanks a bunch. This is very appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Thanks Chris. I'm thankful you were up to doing this for BB. The charts are damned near essential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyB Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 Excellent source of information, thanks very much for this enormous work you have done. Your CMBO charts have been the best information source for the troop selections! One question, do the prices for various units change during the time period? If not it would be very handy to have some price figures for regular units at same charts? Teddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 6, 2002 Author Share Posted October 6, 2002 Originally posted by TeddyB: One question, do the prices for various units change during the time period? If not it would be very handy to have some price figures for regular units at same charts?They did in CMBO with the presence of Tungsten and HE rounds, so I imagine it will change with all the ammo type changes in CMBB (e.g. 3 different Hollow charge rounds just for the German 75mm guns alone) and would be really difficult for someone to do. Especially if you tried to list both the base cost and with fixed rarity. That's a nightmare I have no intention of tackling. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Looks great Wolfe! I knew that as soon as I started to do the same thing, someone else would beat me to it! Very good job. Print those up and frame them above the computer! Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 10, 2002 Author Share Posted October 10, 2002 Originally posted by Chad Harrison: I knew that as soon as I started to do the same thing, someone else would beat me to it! Very good job.Thanks! And it's good to know I'm not the only one crazy enough to consider doing this stuff. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquon Posted October 10, 2002 Share Posted October 10, 2002 Thanks, Wolfe ! I've seen a curious effect : when viewing this file (w/ Excel 2000) I saw no text until I realized the text color was all white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Harrison Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Originally posted by Wolfe: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Chad Harrison: I knew that as soon as I started to do the same thing, someone else would beat me to it! Very good job.Thanks! And it's good to know I'm not the only one crazy enough to consider doing this stuff. - Chris</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 Originally posted by Zarquon: Thanks, Wolfe ! I've seen a curious effect : when viewing this file (w/ Excel 2000) I saw no text until I realized the text color was all white.Yeah, it's a known but annoying bug. Thankfully it's easily worked around. - Chris [ October 12, 2002, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: Wolfe ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 12, 2002 Author Share Posted October 12, 2002 The second installment has now arrived!!! I've added the gun penetration tables to the charts and fixed a number of errors (mostly typos). Changes: * Added gun penetration tables including blast values for all guns and availability dates for special rounds (tungsten, hollow charge). * Added rate of fire for all weapons. * Fixed tungsten, hollow charge, and AP availability for a handful of vehicles. * Added Romanian Pz38t. Ooops. * Added/corrected anti-aircraft listing for all AA-capable (and incapable) units. * Added better identification for some guns in both charts. * Fixed numerous typos too -erm-, well, numerous to mention. Get 'em while they're hot! - Chris [ October 12, 2002, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: Wolfe ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarquon Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 One of the most usefuls info in your table is the tank RoF. Now, you list the Panzer IIIM late skirt with a RoF of 10, but the Panzer IIIM with only 9. Is this due to testing (must be a lot of work) or are there differences only some Übergrog might know? Same with other vehicles.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 15, 2002 Author Share Posted October 15, 2002 Originally posted by Zarquon: One of the most usefuls info in your table is the tank RoF. Now, you list the Panzer IIIM late skirt with a RoF of 10, but the Panzer IIIM with only 9. Is this due to testing (must be a lot of work) or are there differences only some Übergrog might know? Same with other vehicles....Just normal variance. Reg 75/L48 guns get 6 or 7 rounds per minute except in special cases (like the Hetzer). The German 50mm will get 9 or 10 rounds/minute. But some numbers are very solid. The 105mm German guns always seem to get 4 rounds/min (barring retargeting or supression). - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted October 16, 2002 Author Share Posted October 16, 2002 Mini-update: Added aircraft weapons loadouts to tanks chart and some MG penetration numbers to guns chart. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 Now updated for CMBB 1.01!!! This is the finished version (hopefully; until the next patch comes out ) that now includes infantry firepower charts for all 10,000 different units (or thereabouts). Also includes TO&E for every battalion/company/platoon in the game. It weighs in at a svelte 88 printed pages. Changes in Tanks and Penetration charts: * Finnish PzIVH is now available Aug44. * Finnish StuG now early-mid (was mid) and is available Jun44. * Finnish PaK40 AT gun now available in Jul43. * Added 76mm, 81mm, 105mm, 120mm, 122mm, 152mm Finnish radio FOs. * Added BT-5A and BT-7A Soviet tanks. * Corrected BT-5 M1934 listing (was listed as 1944). * Changed Valentine IX gun to 75e/L50. * Changed penetration numbers for Axis 37t/L40, 37/L45, 37/L57, and 37t/L48 guns. And changed AP shot to AP (lg) on the L/45 and L/57. * Changed APC penetration on Axis 50/L42 and 50/L60 guns. * Updated hollow charge Dec42 availability for Axis 75/L10, 75/L11, 75/L24, 75/L26, 75f/L36, 105/L18, and 105/L28. * Changed APC penetration numbers for Soviet 50g/L60. * Changed APCBC penetration numbers for Soviet 57e/L50 gun (formerly 57e/L43). * Changed HE penetration numbers for Soviet 122/L48 gun. Enjoy! - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted November 22, 2002 Author Share Posted November 22, 2002 Mini-update. Corrected faust and grenade bundle availability for Finnish squads and fixed date of last availability for Finnish Sissi squads and Finnish Infantry Sissi Battalion '42B to May43. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agua Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Thanks Chris. BTW, have any idea how many folks have dl'd you CMBO charts over the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergerbitz Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 My God, but that must have been a lot of work. I deeply appreciate your efforts. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusB Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 I now have something to replace the CivII chart on my wall with. Many, many thanks Wolfe. By the way, I D/L the excel viewer and it works on Windows XP, in case anyone was wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demoss Posted November 26, 2002 Share Posted November 26, 2002 Thank you, spasibo, danke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oban Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Thanks your effort is very much appreciated. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEEF888 Posted November 27, 2002 Share Posted November 27, 2002 Outstanding work, once again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted November 28, 2002 Author Share Posted November 28, 2002 Thanks, guys! Glad you like 'em. They were a lot of hard work, but well worth it! Originally posted by Agua: Thanks Chris. BTW, have any idea how many folks have dl'd you CMBO charts over the years?Unfortunately I don't. My ISP doesn't keep track of free homepage DL's anymore and I never bothered with one of those download counters. Would be interesting, but I just don't know. - Chris [ November 28, 2002, 02:36 PM: Message edited by: Wolfe ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted December 13, 2002 Author Share Posted December 13, 2002 Update for Dec 13, 2002: Fixed avalability dates of APBC for Russian 76/L17 gun and tungsten for German 75/L48 in the Guns chart. Fixed the number of MGs on the StuG IIIG early-mid, mid, late-mid, and late as well as Stug IV late in the Tanks chart. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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