Diceman Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Ooooh looky what I found. I actualy found this on the Missing-Links site. And I just finished a nice Tiger II! If only I owned a digital camera. For you guys that model, check this out. For everyone else check out the vehicle list. http://www.battlefront.com/Model_Contest/Model_contest.html (Edited to hopefuly make the link work) [ 01-02-2002: Message edited by: Diceman ]</p>
aka_tom_w Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 WOW I mean WOW :eek: :eek: !!!! two things First off this looks like this will help out with the production of CMBB, BUT the contest Closes Feb 28 so I could easily be a month or two or three after that before we see the actual game. Thats just my personal conjecture..... BUT look at this list of all the models they are looking for...... from this page: http://www.battlefront.com/Model_Contest/Model_contest.html Vehicle models eligible for submission Please note that NOT ALL of the models below will end up in the game. Some vehicles were upgraded throughout there production cycle while retaining the same model name. Those vehicle revisions are noted in parenthesis. RUSSIA (USSR) =================== T-34 Model 1940 Tank T-34 Model 1941 Tank T-34 Model 1941 Tank (with cast turret) T-34 Model 1942 Tank (early model) T-34 Model 1942 Tank T-34 Model 1943 Tank T-34 Model 1943 Tank (late model) OT-34 Model 1942 Flamethrower Tank OT-34 Model 1943 Flamethrower Tank T-34/57 Model 1941 Tank T-34/57 Model 1943 Tank T-34/85 Model 1943 Tank T-34/85 Model 1944 Tank T-34/85 Model 1944 Tank (late model) OT-34/85 Flamethrower Tank T-44 Tank KV-1 Model 1939 Heavy Tank KV-1 Model 1940 Heavy Tank KV-1 Model 1941 Heavy Tank KV-1E Heavy Tank KV-1S Heavy Tank KV-2 Heavy Assault Tank KV-8 Heavy Flamethrower Tank KV-8S Heavy Flamethrower Tank KV-85 Heavy Tank IS-1 Heavy Tank IS-2 Model 1943 Heavy Tank IS-2 Model 1944 Heavy Tank (early model) IS-2 Model 1944 Heavy Tank IS-3 Heavy Tank SU-76 Self-Propelled Gun SU-76M Self-Propelled Gun SU-76i Self-Propelled Gun SU-76P Self-Propelled Gun SU-85 Tank Destroyer SU-85M Tank Destroyer SU-100 Tank Destroyer SU-122 Assault Gun SU-152 Assault Gun ISU-122 Assault Gun ISU-122S Assault Gun ISU-152 Assault Gun T-26 Model 1931 Tank T-26 Model 1933 Tank T-26 Model 1935 Tank T-26S Model 1937 Tank T-26S Model 1939 Tank T-26A T-26E OT-26 OT-130 Flamethrower Tank OT-133 Flamethrower Tank OT-134 Flamethrower Tank OT-134E Flamethrower Tank BT-5 Fast Tank BT-5A Fast Tank BT-7 Fast Tank BT-7A Fast Tank BT-8 Fast Tank T-27 Tankette T-37 Tankette T-38 Tankette T-38M2 Tankette T-40 Tankette T-60 Model 1941 Light Tank T-60 Model 1942 Light Tank T-70 Model 1942 Light Tank T-70 Model 1943 Light Tank T-80 T-18 BA-6 Armored Car BA-6M Armored Car BA-10 Armored Car BA-11 Armored Car BA-20 Armored Car BA-64 Light Armored Car BA-64B Light Armored Car SU-12 SU-57 ZIS-30 GAZ-4M ZIS-42 Komsomolyets T-20 GAZ 64 GAZ 67 GAZ 67B ZIS 5 truck ZIS 6 truck M4A2 Sherman M4A2(76) Sherman M3A1 Stuart Valentine III Valentine IV Valentine IX Valentine XI Churchill III Matilda II M3A1 Scout Car M17 Halftrack M5 Halftrack U.S. Truck U.S. Jeep MG/Universal Carrier GERMANY =================== H-39 Hotchkiss PzKw R35 PzKw 35S Pz IB Pz IC Pz IF SIG IB Panzerjäger I Panzer IIC Panzer IIF Panzer IIJ Lynx (Pz IIL) Flammpanzer II Wespe Marder II (early model) Marder II Marder III (early model) Marder III Marder III (late model) Panzer 35(t) Panzer 38(t)A Panzer 38(t)E Panzer 38(t)G Grille (sIG 33 auf Pz38t) Grille (sIG 33/1 auf Pz38t) Flakpanzer 38(t) Aufklärer 38(t) Hetzer (JgPz 38t) Flammpanzer 38(t) Hetzer sIG 33/2 auf JPz 38(t) Panzer IIIF Panzer IIIG Panzer IIIH Panzer IIIJ (short barrel) Panzer IIIJ (short barrel, late model) Panzer IIIJ Panzer IIIJ (late model) Panzer IIIL Panzer IIIM Panzer IIIM (late model) Panzer IIIN Panzer IIIN (late model) Flammpanzer III Sturmgeschütz IIIB Sturmgeschütz IIIE Sturmgeschütz IIIF Sturmgeschütz IIIF (late model) Sturmgeschütz IIIF/8 Sturmgeschütz IIIG (early model) Sturmgeschütz IIIG (early mid model) Sturmgeschütz IIIG (middle model) Sturmgeschütz IIIG (late mid model) Sturmgeschütz IIIG (late model) Sturmgeschütz IV Sturmgeschütz IV (late model) StuH42 Assault Howitzer (early model) StuH42 Assault Howitzer (middle model) StuH42 Assault Howitzer (late model) Sturminfanteriegeschütz 33B Panzer IVC Panzer IVD Panzer IVE Panzer IVF Panzer IVF2 Panzer IVG (early model) Panzer IVG Panzer IVG (late model) Panzer IVH Panzer IVJ Jagdpanzer IV (early model) Jagdpanzer IV Panzer IV/70(A) Panzer IV/70(V) Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, early model) Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, middle model) Brummbär (Sturmpanzer IV, late model) Nashorn Hummel Möbelwagen Ostwind Wirbelwind Panther (Pz VD) Panther (Pz VD late model) Panther (Pz VA early model) Panther (Pz VA) Panther (Pz VG) Panther (Pz VG late model) Panther F Jagdpanther (JPz V, early model) Jagdpanther (JPz V, early model) Tiger (Pz VIE early model) Tiger (Pz VIE) Tiger (Pz VIE late model) Sturmtiger King Tiger (Pz VIB) Jagdtiger (JPz VI) Ferdinand (PzJg Tiger) Elefant (PzJg Tiger) Pz M15/42 738i PSW 221 Light Armored Car PSW 221 Light Armored Car (late model) PSW 222 Light Armored Car PSW 222 Light Armored Car (late model) PSW 223 Light Radio Car PSW 223 Light Radio Car (late model) PSW 231 8-Rad Armored Car PSW 232 8-Rad Armored Car PSW 233 Heavy Armored Car PSW 234/1 Armored Car Puma (PSW 234/2 Armored Car) PSW 234/3 Heavy Armored Car PSW 234/4 Heavy Armored Car Sd Kfz 135/1 Self-Prop. Howitz. 4.7cm PaK auf PzKw 35R(f) Raupenschlepper Ost SPW 250/1 Halftrack SPW 250/7 Halftrack SPW 250/8 Halftrack SPW 250/9 Halftrack SPW 250/10 Halftrack SPW 250/11 Halftrack SPW 251/1 Halftrack SPW 251/2 Halftrack SPW 251/9 Stummel Halftrack SPW 251/10 Halftrack SPW 251/16 Halftrack SPW 251/17 Halftrack SPW 251/21 Halftrack SPW 251/22 Halftrack Sd Kfz 7 Gun Tractor Sd Kfz 6/2 Flak Vehicle Sd Kfz 7/1 Flak Vehicle (early model) Sd Kfz 7/1 Flak Vehicle Sd Kfz 7/2 Flak Vehicle (early model) Sd Kfz 7/2 Flak Vehicle Sd Kfz 10/4 Flak Vehicle (early model) Sd Kfz 10/4 Flak Vehicle Kübelwagen Truck HUNGARY =================== Turan I Turan I (w/armor skirt) Turan II Turan II (w/armor skirt) Zrinyi Zrinyi (w/armor skirt) Toldi I Toldi II Toldi III Nimrod Csaba armored car CV35 tankette ROMANIA =================== R-1 Tankette Renault R-35 Vanatorul de care R-35 TACAM R-2 TACAM T-60 Malaxa Carrier FINLAND =================== BT-42 ITALY =================== L6/40 Semovente L40 da 47/32 [ 01-02-2002: Message edited by: aka_tom_w ]</p>
Runyan99 Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Hey, this is cool. Will we get to see all of the entries?
Panzer Leader Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Holy Crap! Nobody ever tells me anything! I've got a 250/11 to submit and give me a few weeks and I'll have a Grille!
Pud Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Impressive list of what "may" be in the game. I think I am going mad waiting for CMBB...... Sleepless nights.... Sitting infront of my monitor with CMBB screenshots as backgrounds....
Runyan99 Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Here is a link to the Missing Links modeling site. Check out all of the cool models! http://www.missing-lynx.com Here is a good Panzer III. It must be from the winter of '41 or '42, because you can still see the panzer grey paint job underneath. The thing looks real. [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Runyan99 ] [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Runyan99 ]</p>
Warmaker Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Impressive vehicle list. If alot of that stuff is going to make it into CMBB then we can be really happy. I mean, the Italian tanks even get a mention...
Kwazydog Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Heya Guys, Hehe, I see it didnt take you all long to find the competition...at least you saved us from making an announcement here I guess. Guys, as has been noted, that list is a *potential* vehicle list for CMBB, but how many make it in does depend on time and how we progress with development. The more model submissions we get the more time it will save us and thus more vehicles will make it in though, so please feel free to spread the word as far as you can! Dan
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by KwazyDog: Heya Guys, Hehe, I see it didnt take you all long to find the competition...at least you saved us from making an announcement here I guess. Guys, as has been noted, that list is a *potential* vehicle list for CMBB, but how many make it in does depend on time and how we progress with development. The more model submissions we get the more time it will save us and thus more vehicles will make it in though, so please feel free to spread the word as far as you can! Dan<hr></blockquote> Dan, what exactly is the purpose of the contest - are you simply illiciting ideas for mods, or are you counting on photo perfect models that you can simply translate into CM skins? I submitted 10 Mb of photos of a crappy 1/72 T-34 I built about 15 years ago; it would never win a model contest, but the colour scheme and markings are cool and might serve as some inspiration (as is the aerial recognition flag on the back). I have some other kits I never felt the need to build, but am seriously thinking of fishing them out. Are you looking for historical marking schemes? I had presumed all the skins in CM would be based on historical schemes. I'm also hoping Panzer Grey will be the predominant scheme (as it was historically) during the 41-42 period - and that the schemes will change over time. Will the "official" CM2 skins include "fantasy" schemes and markings? Will they be unit specific or generic? Or are you leaving it up to us.... [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: Michael Dorosh ]</p>
Kwazydog Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Hi Michael! I think I might be recieving your model at the moment...Im glad I have a cable account, hehe. There are two purposes behind the modelling competition. FIrstly, we were wanting to generate some interest in CMBB amongst the modelling community. I think there would be more than one modeller whome would love to see them Panther come to life Secondly, yes, it will help us with texturing. Generally we are mainly after historically accurate textures, but even if models are not particually accuracte we can edit them significantly before applying them to a vehicle. Just getting the visual details of a vehicle (such as the hull top of a Tiger tank) can save us a lot of time. You would be surprised just how much time even a nice shot of a skdfz 152's road wheels can save us overall, probably a couple of hours. Put it in a different way...If we could get a texture set for eveny vehicle on that list, you would probably see every one in CMBB! Dan PS : Oh, and yes, we are wanting to have pre-42 vehicles panzer grey, mid war vehicles yellow (with or without camo) and possibly even having late 44-45 vehicle in ambush, if time permits. PPS : Hehe, and to answer the question you added after I started types...we are generally after realistic camo schemes. They dont have to be matching a particular photo, but they should be something that wouldnt look out of place on the battlefield either. [ 01-03-2002: Message edited by: KwazyDog ]</p>
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 I take it then that if we clean some things up digitally - ie straighten out gun barrels, say (for the overhead shots), or copy a couple of track links overtop of where the model track meets up on itself, it won't be considered "cheating" Maybe you can post a list of submissions to date, so we can see which vehicles haven't been submitted? No point buying that photo etched rare Hungarian tank kit if ya already have ten of 'em...
Kwazydog Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Michael, generally it would probably be best to enter models unaltered as such alterations can cause odd artifacts from time to time, but if you are comfortable with such minor changes that probably wouldnt be a problem. If we get several submission for the one vehicle type we will be sure to let you know, but in many cases we would like multiple textures. Check out how many different Pz-III's we have for isntance Dan
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Pz III on the way. How big is your inbox?
Kwazydog Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Hehe, send it through Michael Its big enough...Im just glad that I dont have a small monthly download limit! Dan
Tero Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 A related question: Will captured equipment use the same skin when available/present for both sides ? I hope a German operated T-34 will not sport the same paint job as its Red Army counterpart.
Mace Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 *looks at stockpile of unmade kits* Do they have to be made? Mace
Kwazydog Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 "I hope a German operated T-34 will not sport the same paint job as its Red Army counterpart." Hehe, no, that would look pretty silly, wouldnt it Dan PS : Mace, what sort of models do you have there, hehe. I might get you to scan in some of the plates
Thomm Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 I think you should put up rules on proper lighting! The best mods "flesh out" the 3D structure of a tank with shadows and highlights! I bet you have a lot of experience how the light source has to be positioned to achieve the same effect. Maybe you could share this! Also what type of light source is recommendable (daylight?). Regards, Thomm
Brian Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by aka_tom_w: M3A1 Stuart Valentine III Valentine IV Valentine IX Valentine XI Churchill III Matilda II Panzer IIF Panzer IIJ Panzer IIIF Panzer IIIG Panzer IIIH Panzer IIIJ (short barrel) Panzer IIIJ (short barrel, late model) Panzer IIIJ Panzer IIIJ (late model) Panzer IVC Panzer IVD Panzer IVE Panzer IVF Panzer IVF2 Panzer IVG (early model) Pz M15/42 738i PSW 221 Light Armored Car PSW 221 Light Armored Car (late model) PSW 222 Light Armored Car PSW 222 Light Armored Car (late model) PSW 223 Light Radio Car PSW 223 Light Radio Car (late model) PSW 231 8-Rad Armored Car PSW 232 8-Rad Armored Car PSW 233 Halftrack SPW 250/1 Halftrack SPW 250/7 Halftrack SPW 250/8 Halftrack SPW 250/9 Halftrack SPW 250/10 Halftrack SPW 250/11 Halftrack SPW 251/1 Halftrack SPW 251/2 Halftrack SPW 251/9 Stummel Halftrack SPW 251/10 Halftrack SPW 251/16 Halftrack SPW 251/17 Halftrack SPW 251/21 Halftrack SPW 251/22 Halftrack Sd Kfz 7 Gun Tractor Sd Kfz 10/4 Flak Vehicle (early model) Sd Kfz 10/4 Flak Vehicle Kübelwagen Truck L6/40 Semovente L40 da 47/32 <hr></blockquote> Mmmmm, Western Desert, anybody? I wonder, will we also start to see something so prosaic as say, ammunition trailers for the various German FlaK halftracks?
Mattias Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Looking through Missing Links gallery it seems like the competition could be a success, even if not one single new model is built. Those models are truly extraordinarily beautiful! And by now CM should be enough of a household name to draw more attention than model search for CM:BO. I don't have anything to send myself but I hope you get drowned in a deluge of quality submissions Kwazy M.
Leeo Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 It might be good to have the contest more prominently displayed on the Missing Links website, if it can be arranged. I couldn't readily find mention of the contest done in conjunction with Battlefront, though a different competition was displayed. Seems if you want to attract modelers, it would be good to have the contest highlighted on the modeling web page. Of course, I could be (and probably am) just blind and missed it. Anyway, just my two-bits.
Splinty Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Anybody need anything from the hobby store? I finnally found an excuse to buy that Tamiya T-34/76 I've been looking at!
Shep Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Hey all, we need to be organized on this! We need to get the word out! We need a constantly updated list of what has been done, and what needs to be done! In essence, the powers that be have put which vehicles are included right under our control... let's make sure we get them all.
dalem Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 Dan- The only thing I have built that's good enough and East Front is a quad 20mm ground mount and trailer. I know it's not on the list, but any interest? -dale
Michael Dorosh Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shep: Hey all, we need to be organized on this! We need to get the word out! We need a constantly updated list of what has been done, and what needs to be done! In essence, the powers that be have put which vehicles are included right under our control... let's make sure we get them all.<hr></blockquote> I have already sent Pz III L and T34/76A (1941), I have a 1/24 Panther I will be sending also. I have a SdKfz 251 with howitzer (/9?) I will likely send as well. Shep, I take it you are starting a list.
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