ColumbusOHGamer Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today. COG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusOHGamer Posted December 7, 2002 Author Share Posted December 7, 2002 Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today. COG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Move this to the general discussion forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Move this to the general discussion forum ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting Duck Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today.I would phrase it differently. Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago...for being unprepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitting Duck Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today.I would phrase it differently. Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago...for being unprepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG_SSpoom Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 A day that will live in Infamy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KG_SSpoom Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 A day that will live in Infamy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vyrdolak Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today.And don't forget the day before, the Soviet counteroffensive began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vyrdolak Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by ColumbusOHGamer: Today, December 7th, should be a reminder to all Americans of the price that our families paid many years ago so that you may enjoy the freedoms you have today.And don't forget the day before, the Soviet counteroffensive began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 And the day after, the United States declared war on Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno Weiss Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 And the day after, the United States declared war on Japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: And the day after, the United States declared war on Japan.As did the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand. Dec 8th (on this side of the dateline) saw similar surprise attacks on Hong Kong, Philipines, Malaya. 2 days time is the anniversary of the sinking of Force "Z" - Prince of Wales and Repulse - as it sortied to try to intercept more Japanese landings in Malaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stalin's Organ Posted December 7, 2002 Share Posted December 7, 2002 Originally posted by Bruno Weiss: And the day after, the United States declared war on Japan.As did the United Kingdom, Australia and New Zealand. Dec 8th (on this side of the dateline) saw similar surprise attacks on Hong Kong, Philipines, Malaya. 2 days time is the anniversary of the sinking of Force "Z" - Prince of Wales and Repulse - as it sortied to try to intercept more Japanese landings in Malaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Whatever.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 8, 2002 Share Posted December 8, 2002 Whatever.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Never give your cipher clerk the weekend off at a time of international crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Never give your cipher clerk the weekend off at a time of international crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Originally posted by Stalin's Organ: 2 days time is the anniversary of the sinking of Force "Z" - Prince of Wales and Repulse - as it sortied to try to intercept more Japanese landings in Malaya.Now acknowledged on the proper day. In certain naval circles of those days, the fate of Force Z was even more of a shock than Pearl Harbor. Until then, a rather persistent argument remained within several nation's navies that attacking aircraft could not sink a heavy capital ship maneuvering and evading under its own power. This is how raids like Taranto or Pearl could be "disqualified" on assessing vulnerability of battleships to air attack. But with the defeat of Force Z, the argument died then & there, and many even in the Japanese Navy were also surprised by the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spook Posted December 9, 2002 Share Posted December 9, 2002 Originally posted by Stalin's Organ: 2 days time is the anniversary of the sinking of Force "Z" - Prince of Wales and Repulse - as it sortied to try to intercept more Japanese landings in Malaya.Now acknowledged on the proper day. In certain naval circles of those days, the fate of Force Z was even more of a shock than Pearl Harbor. Until then, a rather persistent argument remained within several nation's navies that attacking aircraft could not sink a heavy capital ship maneuvering and evading under its own power. This is how raids like Taranto or Pearl could be "disqualified" on assessing vulnerability of battleships to air attack. But with the defeat of Force Z, the argument died then & there, and many even in the Japanese Navy were also surprised by the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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