oren_m Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 This is a modern AP round, i dont know the specific kind, but i'm working on it. This is only the part which hits the armour, the outer shell is separated after 30-50 meters of flying, this "arrow" is made of Tungesten and the fins are made of Tin. I'm still looking for the kind of the shell, so i dont know yet what the penetration rate is... if you find out before be, please tell me. And another thing, how much shermans it could penetrate in a row? [ February 01, 2005, 03:08 AM: Message edited by: oren_m ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 Also, near the arrow is a standard 5.56 NATO round, just for the scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 [ February 01, 2005, 03:06 AM: Message edited by: oren_m ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Here's a link. Armored Piercing -Fin Stabalized - Discarding Sabot-Tracer. The first one is for the M1A1 tank. APFSDS-T This one is a chart for WWII AP bullets. APDS WWII Sabots 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Bolt Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Double post error. Please disregard. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted February 1, 2005 Author Share Posted February 1, 2005 All i know is that it's a 105 MM round, and it's probobly for "Merkava" or "Magach" improved M60 MBT's 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webs Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Originally posted by oren_m: And another thing, how much shermans it could penetrate in a row? Only one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 A date would be useful, as the 105mm gun has been about for a while, and firing APFSDS for a fair proportion of that time. http://members.tripod.com/collinsj/protect.htm Might give an idea about effectiveness. Also note that the tungsten core is not pointy. the sharp bit is just a windscreen. http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/ Has a fair bit on ammo. Might be worth asking in their forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oren_m Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 Oh, i also know that the round is probobly fired by the M68 cannon which is the most common cannon in the israeli MBTs (exept the merkava Mk. 3&4) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 well i have no website but my brother was looking at a website on a challenger 2 and its 120mm gun sabot round, penetrated 810mm of rha armour(not chobam or cobam whatever its called) at 2km. so thats a few shermans anyway. www.army-technology.com/contractors/ammunition/apfsds.htm well no ap charts here but according to this website seems official. the 120mm gun on the challenger (its the same for all western tanks inst it?) killed an iraqi t-72 at 5.1 km so it doesnt seem high with that! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 with a charm round not sure if thats any different than anyone elses or just a fancy name they give it in the uk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 CHallenger ARMament. The Challenger has a rifled gun, so the round it fires is different to the vast majority of Western MBTs, which tend to use a 120mm Smoothbore. Modern tank rounds won't necessarily maintain their structure after passing through armour, especially if it's a substantial piece. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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