John Kettler Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Am playing Royal Opponent as the Germans, and in doing so, I have discovered some very disturbing things about T-34s. Not only are they fast in, and able to rapidly cross ground with impunity that might bog my tanks, but I'm starting to think that they're modeled as though they're German 8-Rad ACs, with a second driver pointed rearward for quick escapes. I have watched the things retreat faster than my tanks can go forward in Move, and I'm not talking about King Tigers, either. The T-34's performance going backwards was so impressive that their owner, NG cavscout, commented specifically upon it. While I'm at it, I wanted to mention that I have finally seen the Nah. in action. Russian infantry got too close to one of my tanks. Next thing I know, something comes sailing out from the turret roof and airbursts over the men, putting them face down immediately. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Their speed is what makes them so great, because that sloped armor isn't always as great as people think it is supposed to be. And speaking of reversing, check this out: Val kills a Pz IVG He killed an earily PzIV while in full reverse and buttoned up! He didn't even fire a bracketing shot (granted it's a pretty close engagement). He got the SOB on the first shot! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grach Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 The Valentine doesn't look like it's reversing unless its heading towards the Pz.IV... What does he think he is? An Archer?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Grey Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 And my tanks seldomly shoot on the move - if at all! Damn, I should play Soviets, too! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 While that shot is impressive, in a AK quick battle once i had a Churchill with a 95mm howizter, travelling at full speed rotate its turret fire half way across the map and nail a stug iirc which was also in motion ... shot of the war imo Anyhoo the whole bogging thing for teh T34 is its lower gorund presure isnt it compared to the other tanks? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMac Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 This is interesting for sure, I wonder if this is an AI engine limitation or program in which fast vehicles automatically have been givin almost equally fast reverse speeds to match. On a related note: I have noticed all vehicles givin a move forward and reverse order in same turn, will only have a second or two delay before the reverse order takes affect. The problem I have with this is that the vehicle would have to slow down and come to a full stop, and start reversing; In IMHO way to fast of a reaction time of just a couple seconds. Here are 2 situations regarding the above that I believe would be more probable. FIRST - A player gives 2 orders to his tank crew that turn, to move fast and reverse; by the time the vehicle slowes down and comes to a complete stop and starts reversing, there should be around no less then 5 seconds delay from the time the vehicle stops, to when it starts reversing again. SECOND - An enemy AI for example, is moving forward and scans the battlefied and after several seconds notices your vehicle that appears to him to be more formidable; It should take no shorter then say 10 seconds for him, access the situation, come to a full stop, and start reversing again. Just some thoughts. [ September 04, 2007, 07:53 AM: Message edited by: JoMc67 ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Alte Fritz Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 That is a cool looking Valentine. Is it a mod and if so which one? cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauCoupDinkyDau Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Had 'em forever. I believe they're MikeyD's (think he made them before CMAK's release). You can probably still get them at the database. Here they both are in CMBB: But we're hijacking this thread, so let's drop my Val BS for now. Let me be the first to say I'm sorry for starting the hijack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivodsi Posted September 5, 2007 Share Posted September 5, 2007 Hijacking? Naaah, a mere diversion, and a worthy one at that. I often wondered about the reverse speed of tanks. It seems that while you have 'move' and 'fast' going forward, reverse only seems to be 'fast'. Its pretty handy given the criminally slow turning speed of some tanks; its often much quicker to reverse and forward using lesser angles, I believe. Has anybody run any tests on the speed of reverse? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Poor Old Spike has iirc, his screenshots are on the Blitz and at the World at War forums. I could have swore one of them showed tanks using all the speed settings and showed how far they travelled over open ground in one minute. I cant find the one am thinking of, so it must be on the blitz. However this one regarding turn rates of tanks etc may be of intrest: Link Edit: found it : Link Hope its some help to you [ September 07, 2007, 11:30 AM: Message edited by: The_Enigma ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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