Michael Dorosh Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by Sergei: Not so at all, but it just is hard to imagine how one would be IN WW2 while serving in an army that is strictly out of it. Or can I claim to have been in the Afghan civil war just because I was in FDF at that time? Don't be a knob. If you were located in Afghanistan at the time, you could make that claim. Since World War Two took place...ummmm...in THE WORLD I don't see that Swedish or Swiss troops couldn't necessarily make the claim. The Swiss military was active in detaining, for example, Allied and German aircrew who landed in the country (they were interned along with their aircraft). That's just one example. Not a combat role, of course, but I have a great uncle who was "in World War Two" despite never having left Canada. Come to that, both my parents were "in World War Two", though dad was born in 1939 and mom in 1943. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 why is everyone pulling everyone up on technicalities ... it was a simple question asked and everyone gettin all worked up lol [ January 30, 2005, 10:43 AM: Message edited by: the_enigma ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: The Swiss military was active in detaining, for example, Allied and German aircrew who landed in the country (they were interned along with their aircraft).Don't fetch too far, boy. They weren't IN the war, they were making sure they would stay OUT of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by the_enigma: why is everyone pulling everyone up on techinacities ...Because we just love Techina cities... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by the_enigma: why is everyone pulling everyone up on technicalities ...Because we just love Techina cities... </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bone_Vulture Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: Since World War Two took place...ummmm...in THE WORLD I don't see that Swedish or Swiss troops couldn't necessarily make the claim.Oh, so that's why it's called the "World War". Because it involves THE WORLD!!! I wouldn't like to dis the Swedes, since they took to a certain degree care of our war orphans and sent supplies and volunteers, but apart from that, Sweden's participation in the war was rather meek to say the least. And the Swiss? *snicker* 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirocco Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by rommel42: The first panther tanks deployed at Kursk were unreliable and dangerously flammable due to poor testing and inadequately armoured fuel tanks. I would choose something with better mobility and reliability: the Panzer IV That was the point about nursing them. They were suffering from teething problems which, as I recall, weren't completely ironed out until late 1944. It would still have been a great experience to have commanded one of the first into battle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 The French. The only army with decent rations. Can as well continue to think with my stomach... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rommel42 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Even if the French had good rations they had bad leaders, crappy equipment, and outdated tactics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 true and my grandad was in the light infantry and i saw photos he had a belly(not huge mind) so he must of been fed okay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 plus if i could serve on any army it would have to be a tank crew. dunno which though probably choose us. pershing uk. comet/churchill (6 pounder and steal lots of tungsten) Ger. panther most likely russia. kv or js. or alternatlivly i could just join the warmly on sea home guard thet rock!!!!!!! Hey what about the home guard Versus the ewoks? that would be a good fight 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I thought Ewoks WERE the Endorian Home Guard? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: ...The Swiss military was active in detaining, for example, Allied and German aircrew who landed in the country (they were interned along with their aircraft). That's just one example.... Ths reminded me of a parts from 'Shot down and on the run' RAF and Commonwealth aircrews who got home from behind enemy lines. "In International law there is a fundamental difference between an 'escaper' and an 'evader'. As an evader, an individual who reached a neutral country was interned, but as an escaper he was entitled to be repatriated. Hence all aircrew were told to declare that they were escapers, and they been in the hands of the enemy for a brief time before escaping. By keeping it simple, it was highly unlikely that the authorities would check the story - they rarely did." It covers the far East and notes "that in the 7 months up to March 1945 a total of 176 aircrew were forced down over Japanese controlled territory in Burma or in the jungle, and 166 disappeared without a trace. Just 3 of the 10 to return evaded from Japanese territory." Europe, apart from Germany was the best place to shot down over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 hmmm probaby true. still it would be funny to see the home guard v the ewoks. hey that would be cool. forget AvP Ewoks V Home guard would be a brilliant film. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatAWilson Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by Sergei: Not so at all, but it just is hard to imagine how one would be IN WW2 while serving in an army that is strictly out of it. Or can I claim to have been in the Afghan civil war just because I was in FDF at that time? Somebody has to intern those wayward fliers and escapees . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by Wicky: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Michael Dorosh: ...The Swiss military was active in detaining, for example, Allied and German aircrew who landed in the country (they were interned along with their aircraft). That's just one example.... Ths reminded me of a parts from 'Shot down and on the run' RAF and Commonwealth aircrews who got home from behind enemy lines. "In International law there is a fundamental difference between an 'escaper' and an 'evader'. As an evader, an individual who reached a neutral country was interned, but as an escaper he was entitled to be repatriated. Hence all aircrew were told to declare that they were escapers, and they been in the hands of the enemy for a brief time before escaping. By keeping it simple, it was highly unlikely that the authorities would check the story - they rarely did." It covers the far East and notes "that in the 7 months up to March 1945 a total of 176 aircrew were forced down over Japanese controlled territory in Burma or in the jungle, and 166 disappeared without a trace. Just 3 of the 10 to return evaded from Japanese territory." Europe, apart from Germany was the best place to shot down over. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mike Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by John D Salt: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Sergei: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by John D Salt: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ErikinWest: Italians, Germans, Japs, Brits, or whatever. Which one you would you choose and why? In WW2, I think there is much to recommend serving in the Swiss, Swedish, or maybe Irish army.</font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikinWest Posted January 31, 2005 Author Share Posted January 31, 2005 OH!!! I see!! You like the tactic where they sit in a cave and wait to get immolated by a flamethrower or demolition charge. Or perhaps, the suicidal Banzai charge is more to your liking? You really must tell us which comic books you are reading. Japanese "tactics" in most of the battles in the islands from 1943 on involved upwards of 90% of the Japanese defenders being killed stone cold dead. There are a few ways for you to re-enact that experience, but I'll leave it to your imagination lest I be charged for abetting a criminal (suicide is illegal in most jurisdictions around the world). John D. Salt has the right idea, no matter how much Sergei pretends not to understand his point. [/QB]Well I can tell someone really needs to calm down. Perhaps you do not understand. This is a forum, text, and a hypothetical question. Snap out of it man were not on a battlefield! Were not talking: "I support the killing of prisoners" I'm just saying I have always like the Japanese armies and half the point of it their weapons were crap so its fun to be the underdog. I think I probably should have stated in my original post that this question is from more of a simulator/spectator perspective so I didn't release the rage of people who forgot to take their ADD medicine. Cheers, Erik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletRat Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Australian, because we kicked arse (anyone say Kokoda trail & North Africa?), only problem was there wasn't enough of us to make any huge impact. Oh, and I'd take the Owen gun - nice neat little SMG, if a bit ugly... and impossible to jam. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Brazil Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by ErikinWest: Me: Japanese because I love the army, weapons and style!Me: German U-Boat crew, late in the war! :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Dorosh Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by ErikinWest: Well I can tell someone really needs to calm down. Perhaps you do not understand. This is a forum, text, and a hypothetical question. Snap out of it man were not on a battlefield! Were not talking: "I support the killing of prisoners" I'm just saying I have always like the Japanese armies and half the point of it their weapons were crap so its fun to be the underdog. I think I probably should have stated in my original post that this question is from more of a simulator/spectator perspective so I didn't release the rage of people who forgot to take their ADD medicine. Cheers, Erik Do you really think my responding to each of your posts really is indicative of an Attention Deficit? You appear to know as much about mental disorders as you do about military history... No, you should repost your original statement and question so it doesn't make you look like a six year old adolescent. Your latest comments don't serve you very well, either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yacinator Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 I'd be a paratrooper. Either American, Brit or German. Probably German 'cause their guns kicked ass. I'd use a Fallschirmjägergewehr 42. Not that I support the cause for which they served, they just seem the kewlest. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Enigma Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by roqf77: forget AvP Ewoks V Home guard would be a brilliant film. ewoks would lose because "They Dont Like It Up Em" (pity i cant find a pic of that guy swinging is bayonet around ... ) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanonier Reichmann Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Originally posted by David I: Read "The Rape of Nanking". DavidI It's a pity current generations of Japanese don't read it due to ignorance promulgated by succesive Japanese governments. Takes the concept of sweeping matters under the carpet to new heights. Regards Jim R. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Brit para at Arnem or Pegasus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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