MikeyD Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Aberdeen Jadg. Don't know what they're doing with it. 'Borrowed from another discussion group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Cutting it up to make Humvee armour plates? All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Nah, it's the base design for FCS. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Too well protected. All the best Andreas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 And not enough design flaws, I suppose. Perhaps it's a bargining tool? Paint it in desert colours, slap some applique armour on the side and a RWS on top and threaten to produce it unless the US govt pay you lots and lots of money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatEtr Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 That looks like a Elephant, not a JagdTiger. But I guess it's still in the same Jagd/hunting anti-tank class as the Jagds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Grey Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 I hope someone plany top restore it and they don't scrap it... Well, not that much left, anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 3, 2007 Author Share Posted June 3, 2007 I heard 'rumors' that the Ferdi wasn't on the Aberdeen refurbishment schedule yet, but that's got to be what they're up to - either that or they're shipping it overseas for restoration like they did with their Tiger I. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 I think it's a terrible shame so many vehicles have been left to basically disintegrate. Not only that, but it's my understanding that their guts, ostensibly for pollution control purposes, have been systematically drained of oil and other fluids. Not good if anyone wants to see them run again! The AFV's and Elefant (Ferdinand with bow MG added). Chassis is that of the rejected Porsche Tiger I design and the gun the long 88 later found on the Tiger II. The Jagdtiger, by contrast, is on a Tiger II chassis and is armed with a 128mm gun. Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Beergut Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I go to APG at least once a month to pick up diabetes meds and usually stop at the museum. I saw their JagdTiger parked next to the JagdPanther today, but of course, the Elefant is missing. They have been restoring some of the stuff there in recent years. The Tiger I went back to Germany for them to repair. Back during the Korean War there had been far more than twice as many vehicles there than now, laying out and deteriorating. They had a scrap metal drive back then to support the war effort and many rare vehicles were destroyed. One I recall reading was a PzII Lynx. I was there on Armed Forces Day in 1971 and saw two tanks still running - the WWI FT17 and WWII PzIVj that had been captured in a factory, never saw combat. They said they had to hand make parts to keep it going as they were unavailable. My next visit years later had neither one of those running anymore. I'll be over there again for a blood test in two weeks, I'll make a point of stopping at the museum and asking the fate of the Elefant if it hasn't returned by then. BvB 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingknives Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Ah! It has just occured to me that the PanzerJaeger was being removed to recover some of its alien/Nazi/black helicopter super-powers, for the real FCS, not the one that had its budget threatened in congress recently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron von Beergut Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 On a following visit to their Kirk Health Clinic I stopped again at the museum and asked. They said that they get a budget every year to refurbish some of their stuff. Unfortunately this year after they designated what to refurbish the funds were cut. So the Elefant is in "rehab" for an unknown time. They have no idea when they'll get more money or get that and some others back. Part of government budget cuts. The Tiger is still away on loan to the Germans. The stuff that has come back from rehab looks nice. Fresh paint, etc, they even use some silver paint to highlight battle damage spots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 Originally posted by Andreas: Cutting it up to make Humvee armour plates? All the best Andreas ouch.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzlehead Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I live near the Proving Grounds and sadly most of the armor is rusting away to junk as it has been kept exposed to the elements and painting over and over again sealing most joints and other aspects. Also where the paint has not been 'thickly' applied rust is a major problem. So hopefully they are going to restore it... though I suspect they are going to store it somewhere out of sight (junk it). In the pic you can see the grass overgrowing the tracks. When I last visited before 9/11 (it became difficult after that to get on the base for no reason) the tracks were prestine and housed a German Rail gun. I remember as a kid we would go there all the time for birthday parties and such but as I said I have not been there since before 9/11. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted June 26, 2007 Author Share Posted June 26, 2007 I've got photos I took at APG way back in 1976. If my math is correct that's exactly midway between today and when they were first parked there after WWII. I basically got to see them slowly rot for half of their life. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mav1 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 If they are having trouble in restoring their museum tanks, can't they sell them to another museum. I wonder if anyone would buy them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzzlehead Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 My understanding is that they will never sell them, at least a curator there told me that 10 years ago. I think it has to do with the fact that many were 'captured'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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