Der Kuenstler Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I have a german 20mm quad AA gun in some woods at the edge of the map - it is set up and in command. Russian planes keep coming over and shredding my tanks - he just sits there without firing or even targeting - what's the deal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoffel Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 I think its the woods. To be able to spot a plane and return fire you should not be surrounded by trees...... Open ground or scattered trees are better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Der Kuenstler, I think Stoffel's right. Your Flakvierling is unlikely to shoot unless something passes more or less directly over the gun. If you think about what you've done and the attendant engagement geometry, your gun is sitting on the ground surrounded by a forest of trees some 20 meters high. You are attempting to see planes operating at low altitude and engage them out to some 2000 meters or so. Your gun crewmen know that 2 cm Flak is impact fuzed and are not at all anxious to experience a dozen or so treebursts in their immediate vicinity from opening fire on the woods. Thus, and because they've been ordered not to waste ammo, they don't shoot. Be grateful! Your deployment might work, though, if your Flakvierling were in woods on top of a hill or mountain. Why not run some experiments? Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hmmm...I remember JasonC saying in this forum that it doesn't matter what cover your AA gun is in. It will fire regardless. It's a pretty long map so another possibility is that the plane is out of the gun's range. It's worth some expirementing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_no_one Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 I remember reading the same thing, Der Kuenstler. Are you certain that the plane is, indeed, an enemy plane and not one of your own? Do you have a cover arc issued to the AA gun? Is the AA gun hiding? That's all I can think of other than your idea that the gun is out of range. Good luck and let us know what you find out! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted July 17, 2006 Author Share Posted July 17, 2006 No - it's a sturmovik. No cover arc. Not hiding. The 20mm may be out of range - I'll have to draw a line next time I get a turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 The other thing that can happen is that the gun is caught rotating, and fails to track all the way to the deflection to align with the plane, before the plane clears the area. If you give the gun a rotate to command toward the center of the map, and it is near an edge, you can usually avoid this. In the middle, if the plane targets something "behind you", you can spend the entire available engagement period trying to align and not quite make it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 It never even turned to find the plane so I'm pretty sure it's range... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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