Der Kuenstler Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I'm new to the combat mission series (have just been playing for about 3 weeks)and have been playing exclusively CMBO. I have all the mods for it and everything. It's a good game. The question is: should I switch to CMBB? Is it a lot better than CMBO or about the same? Is it more fun? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Yes yes yes! Of course you should give the East Front a try if you are a self-respecting wargamer. Consider that it is quite a different experience: there are some essential differences in game rules (esp. regarding infantry which is toned down to more realistic levels), graphics but especially the theater. It is a great game with a great scale - from 1941 to 1945, 6-7 hugely different armies, tons of scenarios available... Of course, you might want to play CMBO for a bit longer so that you'd get all the satisfaction out of it first. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Download the CMBB demo and try it out It's different.... Same goes for CMAK but the biggest jump in incremental 'improvements' was from CMBO to CMBB Sergei beats me again! tie a hand behind your back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 I like the fact that in CMBB and CMAK, tanks have platoons and HQ tanks. Command and Control.... I have not and will not go back to CMBO since CMBB was released. It is that much better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurtzDonut Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 If you think CMBO is "good game", you will think CMBB is a great game!! Give it a try!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 Sounds good but are there mods for other theatres than just the East Front? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 CMBB covers fighting from Finland all the way to the South and Barbarossa to Berlin, by way of Moscow, Hungary etc The Eastern front was big Originally posted by Der Kunstler: Sounds good but are there mods for other theatres than just the East Front? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigrii Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 CMBB has slightly better graphics and much more realistic and challenging tactical requirements. CMAK is very similar to CMBB but has a few minor changes, notably a lot more dust on the battlefields. CMBO and CMAK are Western Allies vs. Axis and CMBB is Russia vs. Axis. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted February 27, 2005 Author Share Posted February 27, 2005 OK Thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted February 27, 2005 Share Posted February 27, 2005 Originally posted by Der Kunstler: Is it more fun? No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crinius Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by Ales Dvorak: </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Der Kunstler: Is it more fun? No. </font> 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 A word of warning about the CMBB demo. The scenarios were designed more to show old CMBO hands the differences in the two games, and some think the demo is considerably less "entertaining" than the CMBO and CMAK demos. BUT DON'T JUDGE THE GAME BY THE DEMO! In CMBB you play with Czech light tanks, ISU-122 assault guns, and at least three types of Brümbar! CMBB is a VERY fun game. -- And about that "no" answer above. As a 'game' CMBO is probably the most fun - and simple - of the bunch, but it lags pretty far behind in the 'simulation' department. With some of the CMBB engine tweaks done to make a better combat sim, things you could safely do in CMBO will only get you killed in CMBB. Like gang-rushing a mg nest or assaulting across a big open field. And don't even try artillery spotting out of LOS! The later games (CMBB and CMAK) might be a tad less 'fun' in a game way, but success in much more satisfying in a simulation way. [ February 28, 2005, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: MikeyD ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hmmmm...Ok I've been trying CMBB - the first scenario I tried was "Assault on Kamienka" as the Germans. It was, indeed, no fun. Well, I didn't know what I was doing. I had to draw fire in order to even find the Russians, and they let me have it. Can somebody refer me to some good basic strategy posts? The graphics look great up really close but from a more meaningful view (the one you have to use to give orders) the buildings and vehicles look blotchy. Two other things bother me: You can't press "esc" to go to windows like CMBO and you can't make multiple saves of the same game? It won't let me save the game with a name I choose so i just have to save over what was already saved. Unless I'm doing it wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Does your hardware allow you to switch on anti-aliasing? It's definately worth it, whether you play CMBO or CMBB. The default for switching back to windows is alt+tab, but you can change that (see the hot keys). You can save under any name you choose, just like in CMBO. So I don't know what the second problem is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicky Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Do a search for the demo scenario name to find out players thoughts and feedback - by the way it's tactics not strategy Ah the joy of cover arcs and holding fire;) Originally posted by Der Kunstler: Hmmmm...Ok I've been trying CMBB - the first scenario I tried was "Assault on Kamienka" as the Germans. It was, indeed, no fun. Well, I didn't know what I was doing. I had to draw fire in order to even find the Russians, and they let me have it. Can somebody refer me to some good basic strategy posts? The graphics look great up really close but from a more meaningful view (the one you have to use to give orders) the buildings and vehicles look blotchy. Two other things bother me: You can't press "esc" to go to windows like CMBO and you can't make multiple saves of the same game? It won't let me save the game with a name I choose so i just have to save over what was already saved. Unless I'm doing it wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kuenstler Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 OK I figured the save problem out - the scenario name I was using had a long name and it took up the whole box so I couldn't see the cursor. Also alt + tab gets me to windows if I press it a few times - thanks for the help! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ales Dvorak Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Originally posted by Der Kunstler: It was, indeed, no fun.Well, I told you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 A lot of people disike the big command hit the Russians take early war (due to Stalin's pre-war purges). But anything from '43 on (equivalent to CMAK Italian front time-range) Russian commmand, training and equipment get MUCH more playable. Its great fun by early '45 playing a crack Soviet Guards unit smashing its way into Germany. So rest assured, not all CMBB infantry battles are as frustrating as that early war demo scenario. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roqf77 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 just avoid the ukraine for a tank battles he he he he. especialy early war, german tanks have crap guns and the russians cant hit anything 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiavarm Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Is it more fun? I don't know if "fun" is the right word. I like CMBB better because it has more options and seems more realistic, but, I still like playing CMBO. They are both fun. More opponents available with CMBB. [ February 28, 2005, 08:36 PM: Message edited by: chiavarm ] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer76 Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 After my first *proper* game of CMBB I never went back to CMBO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyD Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Oh yeh, ditto. I still play CMBB as much as CMAK, but CMBO's been gone from my machine for more than a year! CMBB is to CMBO like the later Tombraider games are to the first Tombraider 1, before Laura ...um ...developed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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