George MC Posted June 27, 2006 Share Posted June 27, 2006 Hi I wonder if anyone can help - I'm looking for topo maps of the area around Kalach near the Don Bend. I've checked out the maps here but to no avail. Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you Cheers fur noo George edited for typos! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Go west, young man! 1:100,000 Topos of Russia Click on the index.gif at the bottom of the list to first get your bearings. Looks like Kalach-a-Donu is in the 'M38' section, right around the 43.5-long / 49-Lat coordinates. Click the back button to get into the M38 folder, and start rooting around until you find the right map. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted June 29, 2006 Author Share Posted June 29, 2006 Originally posted by Kingfish: Go west, young man! 1:100,000 Topos of Russia Click on the index.gif at the bottom of the list to first get your bearings. Looks like Kalach-a-Donu is in the 'M38' section, right around the 43.5-long / 49-Lat coordinates. Click the back button to get into the M38 folder, and start rooting around until you find the right map. Ah! Yer a star. I was searching all over this website but obviously not close enough. many, many thanks Kingfish, that's brilliant. It's for the next Strachwitz scenario where he is involved in capturing the bridge over the Don in August 1942. Now we can start with the map. Cheers fur noo George 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfish Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 But wait, there's more! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 Mnay thnaks for the link. i've just been trawling through it, but would'nt you believe it the maps missing from the M38 folder are the ones I need! M38 133 - 135 and M38 121 - 123. Anyone out there have those maps perchance? I've tried googling for them but the only links I come up with don't allow me to access the maps, must be some sort of restricted server or some such thing. If the worse comes to the worse google earth has some good images and the maps of the surrounding area, plus photos we have give a good idea of the terrain, Still be nice to work from an actual map. Fingers crossed... Cheers fur noo George 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McAuliffe Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 If google shows high res coverage for that area, you're better off with google earth, then with a map of 1:100,000, in my opinion. I mean, what detail will you find on a map that shows only 1 cm for 1 km real life? Or are you thinking in CMC terms? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted June 30, 2006 Author Share Posted June 30, 2006 Originally posted by McAuliffe: If google shows high res coverage for that area, you're better off with google earth, then with a map of 1:100,000, in my opinion. I mean, what detail will you find on a map that shows only 1 cm for 1 km real life? Or are you thinking in CMC terms? Thanks for your post. 'Fraid there is no high res coverage for that area (although I'm using the freebie version of Google Earth), still it has some info I can use, and I've found a few other maps that all help. I figure with the nature of the terrain here that we will have to allow some artistic licence in the making of this map. For those big steppe maps I tend to make em at half actual scale, otherwise your average CMBB map would just be a large expanse of flatness - with maybe a house, or two. Cheers fur noo George Mc P.S. Mr Pickie would like to point out that the scale 1mm = 100,000 works out as 1mm = 100m so is OK (not brilliant) for CM terms, at least as a start point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kettler Posted July 9, 2006 Share Posted July 9, 2006 Kingfish, Nice maps! Regards, John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockinHarry Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 Best use for any sort of satellite images is to extract info that you don´t normally have available on topographical maps, that would be type of agriculture (if any), something that did not change during past 50-60 years when considering larger areas in less crowded parts of europe (incl. Russia). One can figure out just by color if a particular area is a pasture or a wheat field, the more if the satellite image was taken in summer (most likely). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simovitch Posted August 1, 2006 Share Posted August 1, 2006 Originally posted by Kingfish: Go west, young man! 1:100,000 Topos of Russia Click on the index.gif at the bottom of the list to first get your bearings. Looks like Kalach-a-Donu is in the 'M38' section, right around the 43.5-long / 49-Lat coordinates. Click the back button to get into the M38 folder, and start rooting around until you find the right map. Panther Games (Highway to the Reich, et al.) is developing a company level East Front game and the mapmaker group came upon this revelation in the development forum regarding these Russian maps: "your link pointed me to the same modern maps we have. Everybody (me included) thought at first that 1942 was the good year. Alas no. The (russian)inscription are: 1. The system of coordinates of 1942 2. publication 1984 3. The map shows terrain based on materials of survey 1934,35 yr. corrected on the map of scale 1:50,000, renovated in 1980. Just a heads-up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted August 2, 2006 Author Share Posted August 2, 2006 Hi Simovitch Contours pretty much stay the same though - although stuff like buildings, drained ground and sometimes even river flow and such like is done to artistic licence. Still they are a useful start point for larger CMBB maps. I find that making CMBB maps you end up using any and all info available then doing the best with what you have. Guess that is why most of the stuff I put out comes under semi-historical as the map info is the one that all the peices of the jigsaw rarely come together on. Cheers fur noo George 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn2002 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 George, gorgeous map. One of the links of the pictures seems to be wrong though. The first picture is linked to the second. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George MC Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Originally posted by Aragorn2002: George, gorgeous map. One of the links of the pictures seems to be wrong though. The first picture is linked to the second. OOPS! yer right Sorted - thanks for spotting that and letting me know. Looks like the scenario will be out early next week so you can chck it out for real Cheers fur noo George 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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