DSEDS Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 Hi all! I play the demo and waiting for my ordered full version. Under which conditions will Finland join the Axis. I pocketed Leningrad from the south and Finland do nothing!?!?! Historically Hun, Rom, Bulg and Finland take part on Barbarosa from the first hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklas.Andersson Posted September 11, 2002 Share Posted September 11, 2002 A tip (under all nations set on randome) -> dont attack spain or vichy French and all the axies minors will join u. Finland joins sum turns after u attack USSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 I love all the threads with this title......... CVM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Just curious, where does that 'von' come to your nick ? If you are referring to C.G. Mannerheim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_sk Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 The conditions are that the Russians bomb Helsinki and thus declare war on Finland. Then, Finland must retake the territories they lost to the Russians in the Winter War (looks like the finns are conveniently situated there at the start;). Hehe, just kidding. Anyway, don´t expect wonders from the Finland of SC : their troops are just as crappy as the Hungarian, Bulgarian and Romanian troops. Of course, you could edit the Finns to have 2 exp at the start but then you´d have to activate Finland from the start....but it´d work ok for the later campaigns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankWWIIOnline Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Ugh. Finland is horrible for the Axis at the start of the war in Russia. All they can do is make sure the Russians keep some troops in that area. My last game as the Allies I purchased a Tank Group, Army group and an HQ to take Finland out early. Not only did I get experience for my units but I plundered some much needed MPP's. I then was able to swing my units down south to help alleviate the pressure the Germans were putting on their road to Moscow. So far Finland only seems like cannon fodder and free MPP's for the Russians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuniworth Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 The problem is not the weakness of Finland but the trouble the game have of simulating the germans putting pressure on Russia. My suggestion is to move Kiev one square east and Smolensk and Misnk west to make them easier to catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Invictus Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 If I were the German, I would send the Finns a bit of help and that would probably halt any Russian designs on Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John DiFool Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 All those 5 MPP cities probably should be 6. I mean does it make sense for the Finns to start with infantry of strength 10, but can only reinforce up to 8? JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl G. E. von Mannerheim Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Carl Gustav Emil von Mannerheim PS. i may have accidently switched the Gustav and the Emil around, i can never get that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion_22 Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 The problem is not the weakness of Finland but the trouble the game have of simulating the germans putting pressure on Russia. Kuniworth, you are an ignorant fool! (Hehe just kidding, don´t take offense please) Anyways, putting any "nationalist pride" for events that happened 60 years ago, the finnish troops really were much, much superior to the Russians. Even the SS that were sent to Finland did not make it in the Finnish conditions and terrain. I do agree that a major part of Finnish superiority (and thus survival) in WW2 had to do with the conditions and the terrain which the Russians could not cope with, except for the elite Siberian troops (even they were not enough to do the trick!) but much of it had to do with the tenacity and the desire to prevail too along with the generally superior condition of the troops (enabling them to keep on fighting for inhumane periods of time against hopeless odds) and sound tactics. Oh well, enough of that. Just to show that my argument is not just some nationalistic finn´s rant, I´m going to say that the general quality of the finnish troops today is rubbish, and I do believe it´d be best to create a small, truly professional army instead of this large one (we do not need it at the moment or in the foreseeable future : the only threat I can come up with is Russia breaking into multiple rogue states, and one of them say the "Leningrad protectorate" attacks Finland for resources Pretty far-fetched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Carl Gustav Emil von Mannerheim PS. i may have accidently switched the Gustav and the Emil around, i can never get that right. Usually referred just as Carl Gustav Mannerheim. Actually there absolutely is not a 'von' in his name. If you are intrested about him, http://www.mannerheim.fi should be a good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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