Xavier Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 I'm actually a PBEM Chance Encounter scenario (these scenario looks very easy but it's a very very interesting one with a lot opportunities...) On the video I check two explosions but I don't have any idea about their origin. I have a stug in range(40/50 meters). Could it be this nahblabla close range weapon? I don't think so because there is only one US broken and wounded crew(3 men) near my Stug (at 25 meters). After asking my opponent I know it isn't from an US action. IMHO I think it could be the two first 81 mm shell of an arty request I've just canceled few seconds before. But if one of these explosions is very looking 81 mm, the other isn't. It seems this last shell didn't explose(It's more lookink like a AP round hit in the ground). Is it possible ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauhaus Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 Originally posted by Xavier: On the video I check two explosions but I don't have any idea about their origin If you were playing Berl I'd say those explosions could be him after a night of eating beans by the campfire. But it's only a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 I don't think the Nnavgasdsmldfksafmsnfkl is in the beta demo and I don't even think StuG's had one any way. Could be a Panzerfaust of 'schrek but you probably would have heard that! A wayward AP round seems most likley. ------------------ Visit my webpage! http://cm4mac.tripod.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hunt52 Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 IIHAIWIATA (If I have any Idea What I Am Talking About ) the Nahtmlmkgdsgja;'kghw;lknbgungwaffe is definitely in the demo. I have been burned by it several times close assaulting tigers. (I think...) I'll try and find the movies where I think it fired. - Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madmatt Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 The (ahem) nahverohgodhereitisagainandineverspellitrightgaffe IS in the demo... No need to look, but I believe that I have only ever seen the Tiger fire it (in the demo). Madmatt ------------------ If it's in Combat Mission, it's on Combat Mission HQ! combathq.thegamers.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerShark Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 If i'm not mistaken the vgasdsmldfksafmsnfkl is actually called Nahverteidigungswaffe. An actual translation would be "after-defense-weapon" or "naverdedigingswapen" if you like to know the ducth version As far as i know it was only used by Tigers (actual translation: Tiger ). I have to see it happen in the beta, usually the enemy doesn't come close enough for me to use it PanzerShark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark IV Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 The nahberblaster is definitely in the beta demo and fired smoke to mask a STuG in one of my games vs. the AI. The "nah" actually comes from "nearby", I believe. Like "in die naehe" meaning "in the neighborhood of", "close by". [This message has been edited by Mark IV (edited 02-10-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Also S Bakker Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 Mark IV has nailed it. (except for the actual name off course which only intelligent dutchmen like panzershark and me can spell tight ). The Nahverteidigungswaffe was used as a smoke projector and close defence weapon for German AFV's. I believe it was introduced after the Germans had bad experiences with turret-side mounted smoke projectors (Nebelwurfgeraet). They tended to be set off by small arms fire and the resulting smoke tended to be sucked into the tank by it's own ventilators resulting in the temporary incapacitation of the crew members. For close defence it is said to launch S-minen and / or wurfgranaten. (i've read contradicting statements about this). Grtz S Bakker (behind his trusty old laptop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanzerShark Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 Nah...in die Naehe...whatever, i have never seen it anyway But seriously, you're right about the translation. I always mix "nach" and "in die nahe". Btw...it is "in die nahe" right (without the "e")? Bakker a dutchman? Should have known I like the way you tell them about "us intelligent dutchmen", shame you end with the words "old laptop"...ruins the mood a bit There fore i shall end in style. PanzerShark (behind his pIII 600, 256mb ram, 20gb hd, TNT2 ultra..ooh and a intelli-mouse too ...how's that then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kettle Black Posted February 10, 2000 Share Posted February 10, 2000 About stuff blowing up: I'm playing Chance Encounter now (as US) and although conditions are supposedly damp a portion of the wooded ridge turned ablaze just now. I had a Sherman firing at a nearby area (blind fire) but the movie show no shell hitting the area which started to burn. As I measure it, the round (actually every round, I checked in case there is a "delay" with the fire) hits approx 30 meters away and on the edge of the trees. The fire doesn't touch the area the shell hit either, its approx 20 meters away from the treeline and into the woods. This is not a complaint, just wondering whether the trajectory of the shell shown is equal to the "actual" trajectory that is computed or not? Or do I just need to get a life and move along?=) Kettle Black Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted February 11, 2000 Author Share Posted February 11, 2000 After viewing several times my video, I found the origin of these two explosions . I don't think smoke mortar on tanks and the close defense weapon system are the same thing firing different ammo.I think it's two different stuff but I'm may be wrong... Somebody know if dud ammo exist in CM ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzfeld Posted February 11, 2000 Share Posted February 11, 2000 About the Neuberwafeereflken....... I have seen it come out of the STUG twice in one game during an infantry assault. I am very sure of this because it suprised me and I watched it 20 times or so. The STUG's do have them in the Beta-Demo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark IV Posted February 11, 2000 Share Posted February 11, 2000 PZShark: Well, I'm at work, but I think it would be Naehe, which is an accepted English way of simulating the umlaut which really belongs there, which in turn I have not figured out on my xenophobic keyboard. Often this weapon is confused with the Nachbarscheissigungswerfer, a device for hurling feces at your neighbors. Devils, those Boche. Late Breaking News!!! "in der Nähe", according to the Go Translator thing. So my grammar sucks. Look at my umlaut, flying in the breeze! [This message has been edited by Mark IV (edited 02-10-2000).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dschugaschwili Posted February 11, 2000 Share Posted February 11, 2000 PanzerShark: The correct spelling is "Nähe" or "Naehe" if you can't figure out how to produce the Umlaut. Mark IV: Remark on the grammar issue: "in der Nähe" is used when you are near something "in die Nähe" is used when you move to a place near something Nobody said the German language was easy Dschugaschwili Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfe Posted February 11, 2000 Share Posted February 11, 2000 <BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Somebody know if dud ammo exist in CM ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Yes, anything fired at a Tiger is considered 'dud' ammo. Actually, I believe when you get the "Shell broke up" message, that indicates a dud. - Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted February 11, 2000 Share Posted February 11, 2000 Nah, that indicates an actual metallurgical flaw in the creation of the 76mm shells (I kid you not). Seemingly Charles went into this in great detail once when Steve asked about all the 76s which were shattering on the Tiger's front plate . Don't get me started on Charles and high-end ballisticy physics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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