killmore Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 Seems like as soon as the AT gun fires it is instantly spotted. (even at large distance) Maybe be it is just the way I position ATGs. (They are in the forest). Is the spotting ATG seems realistic in CM as far as you guys know? (CloseCombat is opposite - some guns you can't spot from 1 meter - Don't FLAME me for mentioning that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 It all depends on how your AT gun is positioned. Is it in cover (woods, scattered trees, brush, etc.)? Are there dozens of enemy units in LOS when it shoots? I have setup (and run into!) ambushes several times using AT guns in good cover that were able to fire several times before spotted--brewing up a good number of vehicles until then!--because they were in cover, and they were positioned in sight of a small kill zone and out of sight of everything else. If you're setting up your AT guns on top of a hill commanding the entire battlefield, the moment they fire *every* enemy unit in sight is going to have an increased chance to spot it, and one of them is bound to spot it. Then a world of hurt comes down on your gun! Keep 'em hidden! Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 Oh, and one other thing--units and vehicles have their best chance of spotting units to their front, less to the sides, and much less to the rear. If you set up an AT gun to engage units from a flank as they pass through an area, you should definitely be able to get several shots off before being spotted. Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 I think you must be placing the ATGs poorly killmore. I've had no trouble whatsoever keeping my guns hidden until they've gotten their third or fourth shot and/or kill. Remember, HIDE the AT guns in areas with restricted LOS. That way they are much harder to spot and get at. Big open fields are BAD for ATGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipanderson Posted June 22, 2000 Share Posted June 22, 2000 Hi, my view is that it is important that AT guns are easy to spot , once they fire. The film I have seen from WW2 makes it clear AT guns/tank guns produced a huge blast when fired. If someone was observing a general area it would be difficult to miss. All the best, Kip. ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmore Posted June 22, 2000 Author Share Posted June 22, 2000 Thanks for comments guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killmore Posted June 22, 2000 Author Share Posted June 22, 2000 I know what it is! I am trying to position my ATGs same way as I would position them in Close Combat. - Gee I will have to unlearn those habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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