Stardekk Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 (edited) If Battlefront will release a Module for CW which expands the timeline to 1989, how will it be compared (mostly in terms of balance, that is) to 1982 (CMCW base game timeline) and 2017 ? (CMBS base game timeline). I know that in 1989 almost every Soviet tank has ERA, which means your average TOW will have a hard time penetrating tanks (Unless its a T0W-2\A ?) But, almost every US unit will have thermals and advanced FCS, and if I'm ont wrong in this timeline tanks do not have thermal smoke yet, so you can fill the battle with dust and smoke and it will very quickly turn into a one-sided shooting range, plus, you TOWs will be able to shoot through smoke, unlike in 1982. Edited February 8, 2022 by Stardekk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domfluff Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 The general trend (which has been echoed by a lot of the literature) is that by the late eighties the Soviets wouldn't really have had a chance. How much of that carries over to the tactical level is an open question, but I do think the trend is definitely going against the Soviets by this point, for a number of reasons, most notably perhaps are the US advantage in microtechnology. You can see some of that in 1982, even - the more thermals you add to the game, the more Shock Force-like the battles become. It would be cool to see the influence of ERA on things, but I suspect you'll start to lose what makes CMCW particularly interesting. I don't think the advancements are all one-sided, but they seem to be heavily weighted in the favour of the US. For that reason, if there was to be an extended timeline, I think I'd be more interested in an expansion to the timeline which went earlier instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardekk Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Well, that's what i thought. The "big 5" (AH-64 Apache,M1 Abrams,M2 Bradley,UH-60 Blackhawk,MIM-104 Patriot) of the US is quite a game changer (both in the tactical battlefield and in the strategic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibot Mk IX Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 In FCRS (Flashpoint Campaigns: Red Storm) a wargame that feature Brigade/Division level operations in 1989, Soviets player can still triumph NATO player with carefully planned artillery bombardment, keep well spaced, rested echelons in high combat readiness, determined to send out 2nd echelons to explore any breakthrough. But that’s an operational wargame. The game itself is balanced with devastating artillery effects and exaggerate numbers of Sov Tanks that can fire tube launch ATGM. I agree in Combat Mission scope, a 1989 timeline will bring a tremendous challenge to Sov player. Soviet’s land force looks formidable in 1982 On the other hand, Soviets air power and sea power in 1982 have the largest technology gap with NATO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardekk Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 Not to mention that artillery shrapnel is not causing any damage on optics and stuff like that in CM (sadly). It will give a huge buff to the soviet player. Soviet tactics are (of course) mostly centered around arty, so gtiving the arty the stuff it should do like it does IRL will make the tactics more deadly... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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