StieliAlpha Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) Gents, this may be a question for @Sgt.Squarehead: Recently, I watched a documentary about the Arab-Israeli Wars. In a section about the 6-days war, I spotted something which looked like the German SPA Wasp. The tracks had 5 or so solid travel rollers and 4 tension rollers. The gun seemed to be shorter and of larger diameter. Especially the muzzle brake looked more bulky. In addition it looked like the SPA had some sort of transport boxes on the outsides of the gun compartment. Unfortunately, I saw the SPA only for a few seconds and had no time to take a screen shot. I searched briefly in the Internet, but found no confirmation. The nearest info I found, was that the IDF used some upgraded Pz IV‘s. Edited January 26, 2022 by StieliAlpha 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Sure it was not an AMX13? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) You saw it only for a few seconds. Edited January 26, 2022 by chuckdyke 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Looking at the pic’s: Yep, sure. Especially the long barrel of the AMX 13 rules it out. Plus, the docu showed a battery firing as artillery, which is not an AMX 13 job. But you are right. On those pic‘s the two look quite similar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, StieliAlpha said: Looking at the pic’s: Yep, sure. Especially the long barrel of the AMX 13 rules it out. Plus, the docu showed a battery firing as artillery, which is not an AMX 13 job. But you are right. On those pic‘s the two look quite similar. What about this one?Need to check or Israel bought them or made their own version. I like to solve things. Edited January 26, 2022 by chuckdyke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sgt.Squarehead Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) IIRC Israel improvised a few SPGs too, notably the Soltam etc. on the Sherman chassis.....Without actually seeing it, I couldn't offer much more (I don't recall ever hearing of German SPGs being used by the IDF). @chuckdyke's suggestion of an AMX-105 is as good a bet as anything I can immediately come up with. 1 hour ago, chuckdyke said: Need to check or Israel bought them They did. Edited January 26, 2022 by Sgt.Squarehead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 4 hours ago, chuckdyke said: What about this one?Need to check or Israel bought them or made their own version. I like to solve things. That one could be. I can‘t remember the gun shield, but otherwise it comes close. I‘ll try to find the docu in the Mediathek of the TV station and take a screen shot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/26/2022 at 3:38 PM, StieliAlpha said: That one could be. I can‘t remember the gun shield, but otherwise it comes close. I‘ll try to find the docu in the Mediathek of the TV station and take a screen shot. @chuckdyke and @Sgt.Squarehead: Seems I have to wait until I am in Germany next time. They won‘t let me stream the docu from Switzerland. In case anybody want to try: The Wasp (?) appeared in NTV‘s „Wir sind Geschichte“ Season 1, Part 3 „Der Nahostkonflikt“ somewhere in the last 10 minutes or so. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holien Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Maybe invest in a VPN? Helps me watch BBC while travelling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Holien said: Maybe invest in a VPN? Helps me watch BBC while travelling. Good idea. Tried that yesterday already with little luck. I am using Norton VPN and set it to location Germany, but I am still blocked. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Holien said: Maybe invest in a VPN? Helps me watch BBC while travelling. Hmmmm, but it works on my iPhone. Ok, something to watch tomorrow night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) @chuckdyke and @Sgt.Squarehead It took a while, but finally! Yep, Chuck´s guess was right. My screen pic´ is not very clear, but telling from the "luggage compartments", what I noted really was an AMX. It looks surprisingly similar to the Wasp, though. Edited February 2, 2022 by StieliAlpha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckdyke Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, StieliAlpha said: Yep, Chuck´s guess was right. Yes it made my day 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StieliAlpha Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, chuckdyke said: Yes it made my day You are welcome! The biggest issue was to find a working streaming site and get a halfways decent screen shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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