I am just wondering...

[OnWargaming]

...but is CM able to simulate shining bayonets (or other stuff) giving away the position of the soldiers?

I don't know which kind of details can reach this game, therefore just an innocent question.

Thanks

[MikeyD]

Well, its abstracted. Less trained troops get spotted more easily than well trained troops (elite troops are almost like the Predator monster). You can interpret that as poorly trained troops moving about too much, making noise... or glinty bayonets.

[chuckdyke]

5 hours ago, OnWargaming said:

but is CM able to simulate shining bayonets (or other stuff) giving away the position of the soldiers?

Like smoking at night to steady the nerves? You can see that from miles away. 

[OnWargaming]

Thanks for the answers, more I learn about CM more I feel the responsability of my pixeltruppen 

[MikeyD]

Someone here recently said during NATO maneuvers in the 70s(?), playing OPFOR they were often able to locate American positions at night from the smell of weed and the sound of beer cans being popped.

[John Kettler]

On 10/9/2021 at 4:35 PM, MikeyD said:

Someone here recently said during NATO maneuvers in the 70s(?), playing OPFOR they were often able to locate American positions at night from the smell of weed and the sound of beer cans being popped.

MIkeyD,

This means Spanish troops equipped with wine filled bota bags will have a tactical edge in not being detected, right? On. a more serious note, smell's a big deal in the field, which is why LRRPs in the Vietnam War, used nothing the natives didn't as far as soap and other things because otherwise it would be a dead giveaway to hostiles downwind. Have read that Japanese troops found Americans smelled like brass, because they ate meat and that, going the other way, the Japanese smelled like fish because of their diet. And only a couple of weeks ago, I read the Germans could easily smell Russian troops because of the pungent mahorka tobacco they smoked and that impregnated their clothing and, as we say in CBRN world, outgassed. But long before we ever get into detection by smell, would love to see detection affected by optical contrast, since it's a key aspect of target detection. Also, there's an IR phenomenon called thermal crossover in the morning and evening which background and object temperature become the same, rendering even whole bridges temporarily IR invisible. From what I've read, this is not a total deal breaker for modern systems, but was very much a big deal with earlier generation ones. Here's a discussion of an array of issues affecting military electro-optical systems. Too bad Dad's not still alive, for he was a Senior Systems Scientist at Hughes Electro-Optical & Data Systems Group. The Thermal Weapon Sight for CSW, IW, etc., was his baby, and he'd worked anything and everything in the E-O field, including the Shiva laser for nunclear fusion.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/library/policy/army/fm/34-81-1/appf.htm

Regards,

John Kettler