A few questions for the next 10 years of playing this simulator

[Artkin]

On 5/30/2021 at 7:11 PM, chuckdyke said:

Russian wheeled maxims deploy automatically, they look archaic, but it comes in handy. I think their 45 mm AT guns do too when they are manhandled.  Just in F&R I observed this. I agree with @Erwin read the manual because sometimes words have a different meaning than in the dictionary. Like attack and assault.

These damn cannons move way too slow on the battlefield. The 45mm should be able to move at a "quick" rate for short periods.

[chuckdyke]

8 hours ago, Artkin said:

The 45mm should be able to move at a "quick" rate for short periods.

With the ammunition to transport they weight over a ton deployed the weight is over 500 kg. Walking pace cross country is realistic, I think. On a sealed road quick could be possible.

45 mm anti-tank gun M1937 (53-K) | Military Wiki | Fandom (wikia.org)

[Artkin]

32 minutes ago, chuckdyke said:

With the ammunition to transport they weight over a ton deployed the weight is over 500 kg. Walking pace cross country is realistic, I think. On a sealed road quick could be possible.

45 mm anti-tank gun M1937 (53-K) | Military Wiki | Fandom (wikia.org)

I remember watching a scene in Band of Brothers where the Germans were running with a pak (36?). 

I figured it would have been similar to the Russian gun, but it's about 200kg lighter. It is also a slightly smaller caliber.

Half a ton sounds heavy for such a tiny gun wow. 

[chuckdyke]

1 hour ago, Artkin said:

Band of Brothers

That was a movie. The base plate of a 3inch mortar is heavy too to give an example. But that was for school-cadets lol

[Bozowans]

10 hours ago, chuckdyke said:

That was a movie. The base plate of a 3inch mortar is heavy too to give an example. But that was for school-cadets lol

It's not too hard to find footage of guys running pretty fast with a Pak 36

[chuckdyke]

7 minutes ago, Bozowans said:

It's not too hard to find footage of guys running pretty fast with a Pak 36

The PAK 38 was more the equal in weight of the Russian 45 mm. The Weight of a Honda Civic push starting of a small car can be done on a sealed road. I wouldn't try it on ploughed farmland or through shrub. I saw only the Pak 36 manhandled in the movie. 

[Erwin]

Kinda depends on how many in the crew.  6 young fit guys can push a lot  

[chuckdyke]

4 minutes ago, Erwin said:

Kinda depends on how many in the crew. 

It was the reason the kinetic energy depending AT tanks became soon obsolete after WW2. Once spotted they were history. They need to be mobile like tanks are. 

[Artkin]

7 hours ago, chuckdyke said:

The PAK 38 was more the equal in weight of the Russian 45 mm. The Weight of a Honda Civic push starting of a small car can be done on a sealed road. I wouldn't try it on ploughed farmland or through shrub. I saw only the Pak 36 manhandled in the movie. 

 

I think those big, inflated tires really help a lot when pushing that weight. They probably make it super easy. 

8 hours ago, Bozowans said:

It's not too hard to find footage of guys running pretty fast with a Pak 36

Damn those guys were hustling. A little slowdown going up the hill, but those tires certainly helped. That gun probably has a little springyness over rough terrain with those big azz tires. 

[chuckdyke]

3 hours ago, Artkin said:

those big azz tires. 

Depends what type of vehicle is the prime mover; the western allies were far more mobile with jeeps and 2½ton Studebaker trucks their guns had something resembling normal car tires. I won't lose any sleep over it I think the game is realistic with this. We don't know the strength if somebody is pumped up with the adrenalin of these guys.