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5 minutes ago, Aragorn2002 said:

Each to his own, old boy. But German mountain units were much more important than naval units for example, so they deserve a place in this module. Not the end of  the world, when they're not in, just would like to know.

 

 

Yes I am  agree with your comments and I was also surprise to see lot of organisations in the TOE not really useful, but I maintains to have more infos about partisans that can be useful to create ambush untill the Paris liberation...and, who are you old forwards friend  to say that I am old, I am just 60+ but this picture of Blücher Marshal  was minimum 72 years old when he meet Wellington on the Waterloo battlefield !! 😁

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Back once more to the info on the preorder page.

 
Meanwhile I found the following information at: https://www.battlefront.com/cmrt-upgrades/
 
Current version is v2.00 (Game Engine 4).  The first release of Red Thunder used Engine 3, therefore Upgrading to Game Engine 4 is the option for you. To find out what version you have, launch CMRT and look in the lower right for the Version and Engine numbers.  Click below for more information.
 
So there are patches and then there is an engine upgrade that you have to pay for.
 
I think it would be most helpful for people with the original DVD to outline the upgrade and patch procedure on the preorder page.
 
Best regards
Thomm
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4 hours ago, Aragorn2002 said:

The answer on the question about the presence of Gebirgsjäger  escaped me or wasn't given. Several German Heer mountain divisions were fighting at the Eastern Front in 1944/45. Will they be included in the TOE?

 

 

I'm never sure if I understood everything that was written here correctly, but Gebirgsjäger are mentioned in the TOE:

 

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German Army Infantry

  • Grenadier Battalion 45
  • Volksgrenadier Battalion
  • Gebirgsjager Battalion
  • Grenadier Ersatz Battalion
  • Aufklarung Battalion (Gebirgs)

..

German Waffen SS Infantry

  • Grenadier Battalion 45
  • Grenadier Battalion 44
  • Gebirgsjager Battalion
  • Grenadier Ersatz Battalion
  • Aufklarung Battalion (Gebirgs)
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19 minutes ago, waffelmann said:

 

 

I'm never sure if I understood everything that was written here correctly, but Gebirgsjäger are mentioned in the TOE:

 

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German Army Infantry

  • Grenadier Battalion 45
  • Volksgrenadier Battalion
  • Gebirgsjager Battalion
  • Grenadier Ersatz Battalion
  • Aufklarung Battalion (Gebirgs)

..

German Waffen SS Infantry

  • Grenadier Battalion 45
  • Grenadier Battalion 44
  • Gebirgsjager Battalion
  • Grenadier Ersatz Battalion
  • Aufklarung Battalion (Gebirgs)

Excellent, thank you for pointing that out. This module is huge indeed. 

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3 hours ago, Bulletpoint said:

I think it should be the same firing speed really. Halftracks are not that cramped when the 10 soldiers and their gear which they usually carry aren't in there.

Yes they are, that space is now taken up by a whopping great mortar!

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Image result for sdkfz 251/2

The ammo is also stored in inconvenient locations.....Hence the reduced ROF.  :mellow:

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16 hours ago, Thomm said:

Please allow me to ask: I still have the original DVD from back then, and a new system.

Don't do it. 🙂 Just download the latest full installer. Then you don't need to install by bits and pieces. To find it look in your order history for your most recent purchase of the base game or engine upgrade - that order should have a link.

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33 minutes ago, kohlenklau said:

I haven't pre-ordered yet. Can anyone provide confirmation of the schwimmwagen as a purchasable vehicle?

Here's an in-game picture:

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"What, you don't like my driving?  Well someone has drained the river!"

A splash screen (from the FB splash screen mod) of course, but sort of in-game 😉.

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17 hours ago, Thomm said:

The following is still on the preorder web page:

"There is no download for this product! As long as you have an up-to-date installation you already have 100% of the files you need."

Very confusing!

Please allow me to ask: I still have the original DVD from back then, and a new system.

If I want to use this, I have to install two (free) patches, first CMRT v1.03, then CMRT v2.02, right?

Best regards
Thomm

Correct there will be no specific download for the module. When it is released there will be a new patch released. That patch will contain the module's content. Your FR license key will "unlock" the content. 

As Ian mentioned, the best way to install the game ow is to use the all-in-one full game installer. Depending on when you purchased the base game that will either be your base game purchase or your 4.0 Upgrade purchase. As soon as the module is completed those downloads will also contain the new module. Actually, those will probably be uploaded before the patch by a few minutes.

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5 hours ago, 3j2m7 said:

Yes I am  agree with your comments and I was also surprise to see lot of organisations in the TOE not really useful, but I maintains to have more infos about partisans that can be useful to create ambush untill the Paris liberation...and, who are you old forwards friend  to say that I am old, I am just 60+ but this picture of Blücher Marshal  was minimum 72 years old when he meet Wellington on the Waterloo battlefield !! 😁

A Prussian never gets old, my friend. 🧐

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4 hours ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

Yes they are, that space is now taken up by a whopping great mortar!

251-2-1.jpg?resize=300,198

Image result for sdkfz 251/2

The ammo is also stored in inconvenient locations.....Hence the reduced ROF.  :mellow:

I see nothing here that would slow down the rate of fire. There's more space in the halftrack than in a foxhole or a trench. You could fire that thing as quickly as you could open the ammo boxes.

Here's a video that shows a US mortar crew firing the 81mm from a foxhole. It's very cramped, but they have no trouble. Notice how the guy firing it keeps a whole batch of bombs on his other arm, letting him drop them down the tube very fast.

https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675037793_81-mm-mortar-crews_mortar_firing-shells_American-soldiers

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1 hour ago, Sgt.Squarehead said:

How about the Ford GPA for the Soviets? 

They were very popular around the time of Bagration.

Nope. Sorry.

  

24 minutes ago, Probus said:

Are there going to be any surprises in the release @BFCElvis?  This is the first new release since I rediscovered Combat Mission so I have no idea if that is a common practice. 🤨data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==

If there are it's because I dropped the ball and missed something. 🙂

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3 minutes ago, BFCElvis said:

Nope. Sorry.

Shame.....Depending on the crew swapping options we mght be able to make our own, but it would be cool to see them in a patch down the road.

I can provide plenty of photographic evidence of their use in Bagration, quite often in what we might think of today as Special Forces units.

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