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Hello together! Again a post from my side to help improving the best game in the world! :)

I'm just starting a new battle in CMBN with Waffen SS defending and now as I choose a motorized SS Panzergrenadier batalion in the purchasing screen, from the category "Mechanized Infantry", I realize that they don't have any vehicles. No Opel Blitz trucks or Kubelwagen, not even an old bicycle... can it be?

The same applies to the SS Panzerdivision Escort Company, in both categories, "infantry" and "mechanized infantry".

In the category "Wehrmacht", there are always ammunition trucks assigned to this formation (Panzer Div. Escort Company), even if it is only in the "infantry" category.

So I'm wondering that the Waffen SS, which ususally was better equipped than the Wehrmacht, should not have had any trucks in Normandy?

This is an error in the TOE, I guess.

Have been looking for a thread on this topic before, but it looks like nobody has noticed it yet, so I'm posting it here for discussion or for notification and improvement. 🙂

 

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1 hour ago, Shorker said:

I'm just starting a new battle in CMBN with Waffen SS defending and now as I choose a motorized SS Panzergrenadier batalion in the purchasing screen, from the category "Mechanized Infantry", I realize that they don't have any vehicles. No Opel Blitz trucks or Kubelwagen, not even an old bicycle... can it be?

Hello Shorker,  

I just attempted it and got the same results as you.  I also changed the equipment from typical to excellent, thinking maybe this would add trucks, but still no motorized vehicles at all.  I can't explain it.     

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5 hours ago, Shorker said:

Thank you, MOS:96B2P  (I know your name but because of privacy etc.,  ok, K. ?  😉).

Not really sure about it - are you eventually a Beta Tester and has this error/mistake been reported to the Battlefront developer team? Will it be patched? 

No problem Shork!!  I don't mind if people know my name is Karl with a K :D.   (Got to be careful of those "C" Karl's) 

I'm only a "third wave" beta tester and may not even have access to the CMBN mantis area since that was before I tested.  I will refer your inquiry to senior Beta tester, scenario designer, mod creator, creator of "Who's Turn is it"  and all around Combat Mission Guru @IanL:D :lol: :)...........  

Ian, I know you got to be a busy dude right now but could you help a brother out? :)  

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22 hours ago, MOS:96B2P said:

Ian, I know you got to be a busy dude right now but could you help a brother out?

Joy, I set a side some time this morning to go back and look at one issue from my back log of stuff you guys reported but instead of doing that I looked at this new one :D . Yuck I see the same - issue reported.

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On 10/27/2018 at 9:22 AM, Shorker said:

Hello together! Again a post from my side to help improving the best game in the world! :)

I'm just starting a new battle in CMBN with Waffen SS defending and now as I choose a motorized SS Panzergrenadier batalion in the purchasing screen, from the category "Mechanized Infantry", I realize that they don't have any vehicles. No Opel Blitz trucks or Kubelwagen, not even an old bicycle... can it be?

The same applies to the SS Panzerdivision Escort Company, in both categories, "infantry" and "mechanized infantry".

In the category "Wehrmacht", there are always ammunition trucks assigned to this formation (Panzer Div. Escort Company), even if it is only in the "infantry" category.

So I'm wondering that the Waffen SS, which ususally was better equipped than the Wehrmacht, should not have had any trucks in Normandy?

This is an error in the TOE, I guess.

Have been looking for a thread on this topic before, but it looks like nobody has noticed it yet, so I'm posting it here for discussion or for notification and improvement. 🙂

 

It is possible that the TOE is correct, and though these units were identified as "mechanized" that they don't "own" any inherent transport.  It might actually be a TOE bug, but it could just be a reflection of reality.  It could be that at this point in the war the Germans (even the SS) simply didn't have enough transport to hand out... like having FJ Divisions that never used a parachute...  in a quick battle you would have to purchase that transport separately.

This happens even today, for example, in the US Army's current 101st Air Assault Division, though it is an Air Assault unit and each Battalion can be transported by helicopters, the Battalions do not have any inherent helicopters... in fact there aren't even enough helicopters available to move the entire Division at one time. 

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47 minutes ago, Bil Hardenberger said:

Air Assault unit and each Battalion can be transported by helicopters, the Battalions do not have any inherent helicopters...

Presumably the helicopters are part of some "transport command" and only farmed out to airmobile units as needed?

"Not a Good Day To Die" - about Op Anaconda describes how this lack of unit cohesion/training together creates huge problems when they are suddenly expected to operate together in combat. 

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21 hours ago, Bil Hardenberger said:

It is possible that the TOE is correct, and though these units were identified as "mechanized" that they don't "own" any inherent transport.  It might actually be a TOE bug, but it could just be a reflection of reality.

On the other hand, I think the CM formations are generally reflecting the ideal version of the units, with full numbers of tanks etc. even though reality was often different.

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