British,German,Canadian,Dutch trucks.

[Sequoia]

I'm not expecting new trucks for each of the non-US NATO nations, but does anyone know the type of general purpose trucks these nations used c. 2008?

Thanks!

 

[Combatintman]

Generally the British Army was using a mix of Leyland/DAFs and Bedford TMs, there were still some Bedford MK/MJs kicking around though.

[Dr.Fusselpulli]

For Germany it is the lkw 2t tmil gl unimog (u1300L), called "Zwo-Tonner"

Edited August 6, 2018 by Dr.Fusselpulli

[QuiGon]

3 hours ago, Dr.Fusselpulli said:

For Germany it is the lkw 2t tmil gl unimog (u1300L), called "Zwo-Tonner"

As well as the MAN gl series, ranging from 5t to 15t: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAN_KAT1

[Dr.Fusselpulli]

Sure, the MAN gl series is also very common, but I assume you would less likely find them on the battlefield in the scope of combat mission compared to the Zwo-Tonner.

[DougPhresh]

The Canadian army had armoured Mercedes trucks in theatre, but we mostly used Bisons (Like the LAV but without turret) for logistics outside the wire.

[Sequoia]

Doug, was that because Bisons would withstand IED's better?

Edited August 7, 2018 by Sequoia

[Sequoia]

On 8/7/2018 at 8:34 AM, DougPhresh said:

The Canadian army had armoured Mercedes trucks in theatre, but we mostly used Bisons (Like the LAV but without turret) for logistics outside the wire.

I was doing some surfing and in this supposed Syrian war wouldn't the MLVW be in common use?

[HunterGathers]

LOL I doubt it, the ML is a piece of crap and isn't kept for use inside a combat zone. You might see an MS... But I can't remember when we started bringing them in. That's a little bit before my time

Edited September 1, 2018 by HunterGathers

[DougPhresh]

That, was a big part of it. Bisons are overall more useful in my opinion.

ML and MS are both not very mobile off-road. The MSVS is not a military truck by design but an International truck modified for military use. I think in a Battlegroup in a hot war zone you would mostly find Bisons.

[Sequoia]

I bow to your knowledge. Is that a ML or MS in the photo?

[DougPhresh]

That's the standard MSVS. The Artillery and Engineers have a longer cab.

[panzersaurkrautwerfer]

On 9/2/2018 at 1:26 PM, DougPhresh said:

That's the standard MSVS. The Artillery and Engineers have a longer cab.

You poor bastards.  Like no sarcasm at all there.  Whatever gripes I might have about MTV/LMTV/etcs, at least it's not a that.  

[DougPhresh]

It's worse when you see the crew arrangement.

Edited September 4, 2018 by DougPhresh

[sburke]

Is that Kanye's green SUV?

[DerKommissar]

Drake's party bus. 

I did see Milverados at Base Borden. IDK if that answers your question regarding "general purpose trucks". They did look practical for peace-time logistics -- and adapted to many more applications.

[DerKommissar]

20 hours ago, DougPhresh said:

Good to see that Vampires can also serve in the Armed Forces.

[HunterGathers]

I used to shoot at PLQ dummies on patrol in drive-by's in the ol' milcots haha

Those silverados are absolute trash. Pretty much every vehicle we have is garbage except the leos and LAV's. Some folks seemed to love the bison and cougar but I never operated with them. Says a lot about us when we take the absolute dumpster fire the government leaves us with, and the magic we work with in in theatre. Meanwhile on exercise nothing works and everyone is miserable.

Edited November 18, 2018 by HunterGathers
additional banter

[Lt. Smash]

@Sequoia, are you asking what trucks are included for the Brits and NATO in CMSF2?  It is limited, mostly to light utility vehicles. Looking at the manuals, the British module adds the 2.5-ton M1078 A1 for the US Army.  The British are limited to the TUM, a militarized version of a Land Rover. The Germans, Canadians and Dutch have access to the Wolf/G-Wagen. The only other "general truck" available in the game is the US Marines' Mk23 MTVR. 

Generally, CMSF uses APCs/IFVs for squad transport.  The Germans have the Fuchs, the Canadians have the LAVs, and the Dutch have the YPR.  The Canadians also have access to the Nyala mine-protected vehicle which is capable of carrying 8 soldiers.

Smash, out.

[DerKommissar]

On 11/17/2018 at 11:33 PM, HunterGathers said:

IThose silverados are absolute trash. Pretty much every vehicle we have is garbage except the leos and LAV's. Some folks seemed to love the bison and cougar but I never operated with them. Says a lot about us when we take the absolute dumpster fire the government leaves us with, and the magic we work with in in theatre. Meanwhile on exercise nothing works and everyone is miserable.

Hey man, Ottawa gotta pay that F-35 troll toll.

[DougPhresh]

Plus, Milcots are fine for driving around up top on base or most of the tracks in the training area. Reservists hate them because they don't have G-Wagons in their motor pool, but if you treat them as a utility vehicle there's not much wrong with them.

I'm sure parts and the like are cheaper this way too, since a civie G-Wagon costs like 100k.

Edited December 4, 2018 by DougPhresh

[Battlefront.com]

On 11/17/2018 at 11:33 PM, HunterGathers said:

I used to shoot at PLQ dummies on patrol in drive-by's in the ol' milcots haha

Those silverados are absolute trash. Pretty much every vehicle we have is garbage except the leos and LAV's. Some folks seemed to love the bison and cougar but I never operated with them. Says a lot about us when we take the absolute dumpster fire the government leaves us with, and the magic we work with in in theatre. Meanwhile on exercise nothing works and everyone is miserable.

The US military went through a couple of phases of buying "off the shelf" vehicles in bulk with minimal changes made to them.  It was a fine idea to save money for vehicles and users that would never, ever, in a billion years be deployed off base, it was a horrible idea for all other purposes.  Therefore, it was overall a horrible idea

Steve