dan/california Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/americas-killer-m1-abrams-tank-now-has-its-own-shields-22720, A brigade of Abrams with APS makes the games backstory/equipment mix look a lot better, the Army must have gotten tired of waiting for the mythical American made "better" system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Interesting. Thanks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbennett88 Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 No offense but this is "old news". They made this announcement months ago. What is frustrating isn't your post...it's that their "urgent upgrade" isn't going to get deployed till 2020! So much wasted time already on this. For the cost of 1 or 2 F-35's we could have paid the Israelis to "rush" installation on 1 or 2 actual units and had them in service NOW! Just venting... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Yeah, "urgent" means one thing to a bureaucrat and another thing to men who are getting shot at. In this case, there are no bullets/shells flying at Abrams right now. (You get my drift...) There's an article floating around which discusses the Trophy on Abrams testing. It's not a panacea. There are some legitimate developmental issues which need to be resolved. I think Trophy will be a good addition to the defensive suite of the Abrams, but it is only a stopgap solution. It has some significant limitations. Thinking back to WWII, it's amazing what could be designed and produced compared to today. Of course, today's equipment is far beyond yesterday's. But still... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chibot Mk IX Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Maybe it is a relatively low proiroty project? Russia is a threat, but a large scale land war between Russia and United States is unlikely. Even a war break out in the next five years. US Armor can still keep its edge. On the oher hand, Uncle Sam need a fleet of F-35, Arleigh Burke Flight III be combat ready in the next five years, to counter the new toys handled by China. (like J-20 in PLAAF , Type 055 DDG Type 095 SSN in PLAN). It costs money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panzersaurkrautwerfer Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 If we were looking at crossing the "berm" (interesting how that phrase endures!) in the near future, full stop APSes being bought on a government purchase card, contractors working at profound hazard pay despite being safely in Germany gogogogogogogogogogoputthemonnowcongresswillfrysomeoneelselater. Right now with things simply trending "bad" to "bad-neutral" there's not an incentive to do this with reckless abandon. Making sure the engineering is 90%, doing the purchases correctly, through normal channels is something we have time for. 2020 is pretty reasonable. Things go sideways sure we'll see it sooner, but for now, there's not really a profound rush. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted February 18, 2018 Share Posted February 18, 2018 Hell I am in the telecom industry. AT&T set a target to move from analog and digital to SIP by 2020 a couple years ago. FCC backed it. It is in their absolute financial interest to do so and most of their customers as well. Will they make 2020? Highly unlikely. Industry driven stuff moves slower, you can almost always guarantee your most pessimistic timeline will be excessively optimistic. Every lazy ass idiot in the way has to be overcome and no one ever projects for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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