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Hi, I've never used Scan_Cade before, but now am trying to use it to unpack all of the CMRT campaigns into scenarios.  But I can't get it to work under Win10 with the latest version of CMRT...  Anyone else having this problem?  Generally, it will only create on scenario file for each campaign, and even then the scenario file is often corrupted (or at least it crashes CMRT for me).

If I can't get Scan_Cade to work, can anyone point me to or send me the individual scenario files for any of the following campaigns?

  • Zitadelle-Dragonwynn
  • The Last Panzer-Dragonwynn
  • Rattenkrieg-Dragonwynn
  • Kampgruppe von Schroif-GeorgeMC
  • Rokossovky's Impasse-The Phantom

Also, does anyone know if the campaigns included in the game (Hammers Flank, Blunting the Spear) use unique maps, or do they use maps already included in other scenarios/Quick Battle maps?

I'm trying to do another update of my CMRT map database (see link in my sig), and would finally like to include campaign maps as well; map authorship is indicated in the database.

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Hummmm I'm not going to get any computer time today to test things out but it has been working for me. Check that you have the latest version and look at

 http://www.combatmission.lesliesoftware.com

To see if the campaigns you want are properly listed. If they are then worst case I have the campaign scenarios on my HD.

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Thanks IanL; I've got version 1.8, which is a few years old but the latest I've found.  I click on the jar file, it creates a couple of folders, spits out one scenario file, and that's it...

And sorry, but don't know what you mean when you ask if the campaigns are "properly listed"?  All of the ones I mentioned are on that site, plus I found a few more, so that's good.  

No rush at all, but if I can't figure out a way to get Scan_Cade to work, maybe we could figure out some way for me to get the scenario files at some point.

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OK, trying to help out as far as I can:

1. Download the latest version of ScAnCaDe - 2.0, see link in my signature.

2. Try to run it with just ONE campaign file -for example CMRT Kampfgruppe von Schroif_v5.cam - in a separate folder, see if that works. It should generate a subfolder called "<campaign name> scenarios", which should contain all the individual scenario files after unpacking. Also, as there is no GUI, the end of processing is indicated by the file Campaign_Listing.xml appearing in the root folder (the folder containing the jar-file). If this xml-file does not appear, something went wrong or the tool is still processing. Unpacking multiple campaigns can take a couple of minutes.

Please report back if that worked.
As a side note, I just have unpacked multiple campaigns for CMRT to check, including KG Von Schroif and Rokossovky's Impasse. Looks all OK to me. Using Win10 as well.

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Mad Mike, thanks for your tips, will try shortly--but first one more question--when I unzip the download package, there is a subfolder called "source".  Does the executable jar file have to be in the same directory as the "source" directory when I run it?

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6 minutes ago, 76mm said:

Mad Mike, thanks for your tips, will try shortly--but first one more question--when I unzip the download package, there is a subfolder called "source".  Does the executable jar file have to be in the same directory as the "source" directory when I run it?

Nope, you just need the jar-file and file Listing_Layout.xsl in any directory, together with cam-files or btt-files.

Subfolder source contains the java sources for the program, in case someone wants to change the program by himself. This subfolder is not needed if you just want to use the program.

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Well, the program has spit out three scenarios for one campaign, but it took several hours.  In fact it is still running now, or at least I cannot delete the relevant campaign file to start another, because Win10 tells me that the file is being used by Java.  Also, I can't find the process in the Windows task manager to kill it so I guess I'll have to wait for it to stop, whenever that will be.  Also, for some reason, I've never gotten an xml file; I don't need it, but it does make me think that something is not right with Scan_Cade on my computer.

I'll try a second campaign file in the morning if the first one is finished by then.

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So far I've been able to do two campaigns, with the following results:

1)  each campaign took several hours to unpack--we're talking 5-8 hours.

2)  the Campaign_Listing.xml file was not created for either campaign (but I don't need it, so that's OK); and

3) the final scenario in each campaign was corrupted, or at least crashed CMRT when I tried to open it.

So something ain't right.  Pretty weird, especially since it seems to work for everyone else.  I guess it is something on my system, but frankly am not inclined to spend the hours necessary to track it down.  

I will gradually unpack the campaigns that I have, and maybe ask someone to send me the final scenario in each campaign (assuming that these files for the remaining campaigns will also be corrupted).

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OK, this definitely sounds very wrong. I have no immediate idea what might be going on.
If Campaign_Listing.xml is not generated, the program did not terminate, correctly or at all. From what you're describing, it sounds like the program is not terminating at all.
Hours for one campaign is totally abnormal :huh:

If you want to kill the program manually, it should show up in the task manager as Java(TM) Platform SE Binary (under Processes) or javaw.exe (under Details).

Might I ask what version of Java you are using on your Win10 system?

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I seem to be using Java Version 8, Update 121 (build 1.8.0_121-b13).  Whatever that means...

It doesn't sound like it is worth figuring out what the problem is if it works for everyone else, who knows, maybe an anti-virus issue (although you'd think it would totally block it if that were the case) or god knows what.

Although on the last campaign I did, only one scenario resulted, and in all campaigns the last scenario has been corrupted.  So I might just ask if someone could send me the extracted scenarios...any volunteers?  No big rush.

Thanks for your help.

 

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On 03/09/2017 at 10:05 AM, 76mm said:

Hi, I've never used Scan_Cade before, but now am trying to use it to unpack all of the CMRT campaigns into scenarios.  But I can't get it to work under Win10 with the latest version of CMRT...  Anyone else having this problem?  Generally, it will only create on scenario file for each campaign, and even then the scenario file is often corrupted (or at least it crashes CMRT for me).

If I can't get Scan_Cade to work, can anyone point me to or send me the individual scenario files for any of the following campaigns?

  • Zitadelle-Dragonwynn
  • The Last Panzer-Dragonwynn
  • Rattenkrieg-Dragonwynn
  • Kampgruppe von Schroif-GeorgeMC
  • Rokossovky's Impasse-The Phantom

Also, does anyone know if the campaigns included in the game (Hammers Flank, Blunting the Spear) use unique maps, or do they use maps already included in other scenarios/Quick Battle maps?

I'm trying to do another update of my CMRT map database (see link in my sig), and would finally like to include campaign maps as well; map authorship is indicated in the database.

Don't have to extract the missions from KG von Schroif - done it for you:

http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/tsd3/cm-red-thunder/cm-red-thunder-add-ons-scenarios/kampfgruppe-von-schroif-missions/

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7 hours ago, 76mm said:

Although on the last campaign I did, only one scenario resulted, and in all campaigns the last scenario has been corrupted.  So I might just ask if someone could send me the extracted scenarios...any volunteers?  No big rush.

I already have them on my HD. PM me with your email - apologies if you did that on the past - I don't keep track of who is who. Let me know what campaigns scenarios you are looking for and I'll package them up in a zip file for ya. 

I am not at a real computer all day so it will be tomorrow.

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14 hours ago, 76mm said:

I seem to be using Java Version 8, Update 121 (build 1.8.0_121-b13).  Whatever that means...

It doesn't sound like it is worth figuring out what the problem is if it works for everyone else, who knows, maybe an anti-virus issue (although you'd think it would totally block it if that were the case) or god knows what.

Although on the last campaign I did, only one scenario resulted, and in all campaigns the last scenario has been corrupted.  So I might just ask if someone could send me the extracted scenarios...any volunteers?  No big rush.

Thanks for your help.

 

OK, you're probably right, at least I have no immediate idea what to try specifically for your problem.

The Java version is "current enough", so not the latest release but close enough so that this shouldn't cause any problems.

One other idea could be to try running ScAnCaDe on another computer, if you have one available. See if it behaves differently. You would only have to transfer the jar, layout.xsl and the cam files you want to unpack. Anyway, just an idea.

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