John Kettler Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Quick. How many Tor-M1 systems did Ukraine ever have in service after 2001? None, for the system was taken out of service because of maintenance issues. Exactly, so if it had none available when Putin kicked off his hybrid war in 2014, wouldn't it be fair to say none could've been captured from its troops or otherwise acquired? Yet the DPR "coal miners" have now got the Tor-M1 SAM system, arguably one of the most advanced mobile tactical SAM systems on the planet. Worse, the Tor-M2 is now there, too.https://informnapalm.org/en/russian-air-defense-in-donbas-barnaul-t-and-tor-m1-in-the-hands-of-russian-terrorists/ The supporting video at the link paints an even more disturbing picture. It shows the latest and greatest version of the Tor-M2 is also there. Video shows all sorts of fascinating Russian vehicles not in CMBS. Pantsir's in Donetsk, too. Catch up on Russian UAVs while you're there. Many models available! Here's quite the recent piece on Russian sniper rifles in the Donetsk. "Coal miners'" pay must be very high, for one of them is rocking a weapon whose civilian version is $30 K American! https://informnapalm.org/en/more-photos-of-russian-sniper-weapons-in-the-donbas/ This is from a link within the immediately above via a blogger named feldherrnhalle. A most impressive collection of shootin' irons! Judging by their frequency of appearance, some retired Spetsnaz guy must have a store called Vintorez R US. Where's mine? http://feldherrnhalle.livejournal.com/11015.html Regards, John Kettler Edited July 19, 2017 by John Kettler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 On 19.07.2017 at 4:26 AM, John Kettler said: Here's quite the recent piece on Russian sniper rifles in the Donetsk. "Coal miners'" pay must be very high, for one of them is rocking a weapon whose civilian version is $30 K American! Thait is an exception, unfortunately. Loyalists benefit buying weapons from civilian market, while DPR soldiers have problems with customs if they want to buy good enough "civilian" rifle in Russia. (Usual soldiers I mean) Only someone very rich, with good sponsors can do it. I recently saw video where sniper from "August" battalion tells about problems with hitting anything further than 1000m as they have only SVDs. While loyalists have many weapons in .338 and 0.5. Goverment supply is rather unflexible, they can give an echelone of ammunition but not a good scope or a good rifle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbennett88 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 @John Kettler Great "catch" John! Definitely shows how busy Russia has been with developing and "field testing" new UAV's and other interesting pieces. I am now going to do some research on some of the EW systems mentioned. The one that defeats proximity fuses in artillery is (scary) fascinating! Thanks for submitting it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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