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I've put this here instead of the bug section so the scenario makers have a chance to jab at realistic orders of battle through the scenario editor. 

 

Sourcing preface. TOEs and ORBATs are considered classified information. That is why you won’t find original document sourcing here. Gathering this information from direct sourcing is also illegal. Most of this is presented “as is” for that exact reason and formation numbers are dropped. Where applicable, general sourcing will be used.

 

Part 1 - Motor-rifle battalion.

This is presented in an ascending order from squad to battalion unit size. We have deliberately ignored Staff and battalion command, signals and comms platoons, battalion supply platoons and medical platoons. Russian army has three main types of motor-rifle battalions - BMP, BTR and MTLB. Unless the type is specified, consider universal application.

 

1- Some squads in CMBS tend to have both PKP’s and PKM’s. That is a dubious combination unconfirmed by actual deployment personnel or exercise reports. PKP shares 80% of the kit with PKM, so general replacement happened very quickly. However, there are some remote formations that still have only PKM’s. To note, they more than likely don’t apply to CMBS rapid deployment scenario. It is important to note though, few BMP battalions that still have not received PKP’s, use RPK-74M’s on squad level. BMP Battalions that have received PKP’s use them both on platoon and squad level. Consequently BMP platoons can either have 4xPKP, or 1xPKM+3xRPK-74M.

 

2- PKM with a tripod mount is called PKMS. Effectively the tripod mount has not been used since the late 80’s. That is due to two things, necessary accuracy dictated by PKM’s SAW role was achievable without the mount devaluing increased weight over marginal accuracy gain. Source - PK, PKM, PKS, PKMS, PKB, PKMB and PKT manual page 1, 1979, MoD Published.

 
3- Standard squad carried ammo for PKP/PKM is 600 rounds. 2 ammo boxes of 200 rounds and 2 ammo boxes of 100 rounds.Current MG rounds carried are overabundant, even if considering that each squad member carries an additional 100 round box like in the Chechen campaign, the MG load is overrepresented. The Military Balance 2013. — P. 370.
 

4- AKS74U for RPG carrier is no longer the only option. The swap to AK-74M for RPG operators begun back in 1994. Both variations tend to crop up from time to time, so it is only fair to assume both are still in valid service. It is hard to determine which variation is the preferred one by the army.

 

5- Starting from the 80’s AGS operators were armed with AKS74U’s. Somewhere from mid-90’s they begun switching them to AK-74M’s, so both rifle variants can be found. PM’s are not considered an effective infantry weapon in the Russian army and can only be found as a sidearm on officers. Example.

 

6- With most brigades, SVD operators are moved out of general motor-rifle companies into a specialised marksman company. As such, SVD’s are not generally present in motor-rifle companies at all.

 

7- Most BMP motor-rifle companies have 11 vehicles, 3 per platoon and 2 for command. This is a leftover from when companies had a organic MANPADS section. There are alternative, “strengthened”, brigade companies with organic AGL’s. These companies have 12 (one AGL squad) or 14 (full AGL platoon of 3 squads) BMP vehicles. Some experimental ORBATS also include 4 BMP’s per platoon instead of 3, but I am not sure this variation should be considered until it is more widespread.

 

8- Every company is equipped with a short-range doppler-effect recon station and has a one trained operator for it. They are usually attached to the command squad. These have been standard issue since late 60’s. First such station, PSNR-1, was introduced to service in 1966, albeit not on company level back then. SBR-3, the first doppler station for company-level use was introduced into active service in 1976. Tactically, this recon station is similar to company-level small UAV’s used by the US army. In terms of CMBS, there are two stations that need to be covered -SBR-3 “Fara/Fara-U” from 1976 and SBR-5 “Fara-1” (Headlight) introduced into service in 1999. Ultimately, the code for this is already in game with BRM-1 and 3 using PSNR-5 and PSNR-5M.

 

General Specs (SBR-3) are:

Operators - 1

Operational band - Unknown

Effective coverage - Distance 3km, azimuth scanning unknown.

Effective detection - Man 900m, Vehicle 2.5-3km.

Average detection error - Unknown

Operation time - 8 hours at 20 °C, 2 hours at -40 °C

Weight - 18.5kg.

Deployment time - 5 mins.

Source: Here + Recon Sgt. Handbook, 1989 MoD Published.

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General Specs (SBR-5) are:

Operators - 1

Operational band - 2cm (J) band

Effective coverage - Distance 5km, 24°/45°/90°/120° discrete levels of azimuth scanning.

Effective detection - Man 2km, Vehicle 4km

Average detection error - Distance 20m, 1° of angle error.

Operation time - 6 hours of autonomous operation form a battery.

Weight - 16.5kg regular, 10.5kg patrol variant.

Deployment time - 5 mins.

Source: Here.

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There is also Fara-PV allegedly in in service, and Fara-VR with passed army and state trials as of 2012. Getting the regular SBR-3 first should be the first step though. As with any piece of equipment, there are pros and cons that should be reflected in CM. The major pro for doppler stations is the relative transparency of foliage and small landscape variations. The con is slow movement is very hard or impossible to detect depending on size of the object in question.
 
9 - The are no weapons platoons in BTR and MTLB companies. MG squads were dropped in early 90’s due to sufficient MG saturation in line motor-rifle platoons. The proper term is Anti-tank squad.
 

10 - In CMBS BMP battalions are missing engineer and recon platoons found in their BTR and MTLB counterparts. Considering this and point 7, the minimal IRL BMP count per platoon is 42 and not 34 like we currently have in CMBS.

 

11 - 2S34s have not made it to battalion level integration despite active internet rumour. However nice that might have been, 2S34’s need to be removed from mortar selection for battalions. There are no foreseen plan to introduce 120 or 122mm SP Howitzers to battalion organic support at the moment.

 

12 - Current motor-rifle battalion mortar support is comprised of 2S12 (120mm) and 2B9’s (82mm), both of which the latter is not present in CMBS. A general mortar battery is comprised of 2-4 platoons of 4 or 3 mortars in each platoon, and a command squad per platoon which is currently missing. Platoons are have homogenous equipment, but batteries are generally mixed between 120mm and 82mm artillery pieces. In difference to general perception, 4 mortar platoons are more commonly integrated into current formations than 3 mortar ones. To add, every mortar platoon has one RPG-7 as available kit. Soviet ORBATs sometimes had “driver-AT operator” MOS description as well.  

 

13 - MTLB and BTR battalion recon platoon look differently IRL. It has four squads (1 command and 3 recon). First recon squad is a surveillance one, has 7 members including vehicle crew of 2  and is organised around a more powerful doppler recon station*, a laser designator and two RATELO operators. This squad is directly plugged into the C4 network wherever that is deployed. This squad is armed with AK-74M’s only, but carries an RPG-7 in their vehicle. Two other recon squads of 7 are organised more traditionally (like we already have in-game), except they also have a “senior-scout” role who by TOE’s should have a VSS or comparative weapon, and one RATELO operator.

 
*To note, if first recon squad of battalion recon platoon is riding a BRM-1K, then the doppler station is a more powerful PNSR variant requiring 2 operators. If any other vehicle is used, SBR-5 and derivatives are operated.
 
14 - Engineer platoons have four squads IRL, with 1 command and 3 engineer squads. Equipment isn’t necessarily an issue here since CM handles engineering with a very high degree of abstraction.
 
Part 2 - General equipment observations.

- CMBS has over represented Motor-rifle NVG equipment. Night scopes, usually within 2+/3 GEN, are often assigned to AT gunner, MG gunner and squad leader. Currently there are no NVG sight and monocles in service with motor-rifle troops. We are not sure how things will change in two years.

 

- Perhaps a bit of an obvious one, but BMP-2M is not in Russian service, was never planned for it and there are currently no plans to introduce it in the future. It is in full blown Algerian service, so this vehicle might be best suited for future CMSF titles. If I had the choice, I would petition this vehicle’s removal along with ERA BMP-3. The latter being a late 90’s development which couldn’t even make it to army trials.

 

- With a high degree of confidence, I can say that BTR-82 with KPVT never entered service. MoD supply and procurement documents. Regular BTR-80’s with KPVT though, are in active service by both the Russian, and Ukrainian armies. I think removing the 82 and introducing the 80 would be a good move towards authenticity.

 

Naval Infantry BTR-80’s, 2014 caspian sea

 

Army BTR-80’sб 2015

- BMP-1P on the other hand still remains in service in fair numbers (around 500 reported). Potentially these are vehicles used for training purposes. Additionally, this is a vehicle still used by the Ukrainian army in fair amounts I believe, and while I am against bringing junk to a CMBS setting, I would still value this over BMP-2M. It is a similar concept with the BTR-70M which is fairly active use.

 

BMP-1P recent exercise application:

 

BTR-70M in recent service:
 
*To note, older equipment is often used for training, so its proliferation in active formations may be overstated.
 

- 2S24 isn’t a mortar per say, it is a self propelled base for 2B24 mortar. Together then make 2K32 complex which isn’t in service and there are no plans for it. I would consider removing this vehicle. They are in limited service by the ministry of interior - not the army: Source

 
Prepared, formatted and brough to you by BTR and Wieking. I hope this provides the Devs with enough information to make adjustements towards a more authentic, and more modern Russian ORBATS. I also hope that this provides a bit of a guide for scenario makers. 
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Great information! 

Perhaps a bit of an obvious one, but BMP-2M is not in Russian service, was never planned for it and there are currently no plans to introduce it in the future. It is in full blown Algerian service, so this vehicle might be best suited for future CMSF titles. If I had the choice, I would petition this vehicle’s removal along with ERA BMP-3. The latter being a late 90’s development which couldn’t even make it to army trials.

 

There is a fair amount of what-if or speculative equipment in Black Sea. I don't think there is any more reason to remove these vehicles than the T-90AM or M1A2 Abrams with APS. 

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There is a fair amount of what-if or speculative equipment in Black Sea. I don't think there is any more reason to remove these vehicles than the T-90AM or M1A2 Abrams with APS. 

One could argue that in difference to T-90AM or the M1A2 APS (or even M1A3 suggested by Panzersaurkrautwerfer), ERA mounted BMP-3M and BMP-2M are older equipment that don't fit in the "what-if" scenario due to being rejected by the MoD around a decade ago. In any case, I wrote "if I had the choice", meaning the removal of those variants is an ideal scenario in my eyes. I do not expect it to happen :). 

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3- Standard squad carried ammo for PKP/PKM is 600 rounds. 2 ammo boxes of 200 rounds and 2 ammo boxes of 100 rounds.Current MG rounds carried are overabundant, even if considering that each squad member carries an additional 100 round box like in the Chechen campaign, the MG load is overrepresented.

 Which squads are we talking about? Just fired up a QB and a 7-man rifle squad from BTR had 970 rounds. Another 6-man rifle squad from BMP-3 (no SVD like the 7-man btr group) had 900 rounds. If the PKM guy carries 600 rounds, then there are 3 rifleman left to each carry 1x100 round box?

Upon further experiments, it appears, the gunner and assistant leader combined carries 500 rounds (maybe the gunner just carries it all). Then a single rifleman carries the remaining 400 hundred.

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 Which squads are we talking about? Just fired up a QB and a 7-man rifle squad from BTR had 970 rounds. Another 6-man rifle squad from BMP-3 (no SVD like the 7-man btr group) had 900 rounds. If the PKM guy carries 600 rounds, then there are 3 rifleman left to each carry 1x100 round box?

Upon further experiments, it appears, the gunner and assistant leader combined carries 500 rounds (maybe the gunner just carries it all). Then a single rifleman carries the remaining 400 hundred.

The amount I mentioned, is standard IRL amount. CMBS squads carry too much MG ammo. 

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About SBR-3 and other. I read on Ryadovoy-K forum (or Balancer... forgot now) that both Soviet and Russian armies almost don't have trained operators for these devices and this duty mostly was just formality. Though in current war were spotted several SBR-5 among DNR or "vacationist" forces. In UKR force structures these devices almost unseen, though Border Guard service uses some quantity of new "Barsuk" and "Lys" radars.  

BMP-1 and 2S1 in UKR side are abscent in the game, because TO&E for the game were composing in 2012-2013, when these equipment was removed from service. Now BMP-1 appaared in service again since late autumn of 2014 and 2S1 since summer 2014. In next modules, I think, its will be added. 

 

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About SBR-3 and other. I read on Ryadovoy-K forum (or Balancer... forgot now) that both Soviet and Russian armies almost don't have trained operators for these devices and this duty mostly was just formality. Though in current war were spotted several SBR-5 among DNR or "vacationist" forces. In UKR force structures these devices almost unseen, though Border Guard service uses some quantity of new "Barsuk" and "Lys" radars.

There are two points here. First, not having trained operators (potentially a correct statement), doesn't equate missing standard issue equipment supplied from the late 70's onwards. Training, or lack thereof can be reflected by "experience" setting. Second, as you said yourself, available equipment tends to crop up in warzones, which we have observed. LNR troops have been spotted operating SBR-3 I believe.

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14 - Engineer platoons have four squads IRL, with 1 command and 3 engineer squads. Equipment isn’t necessarily an issue here since CM handles engineering with a very high degree of abstraction.

 

Talking about Engineers, what are their task in the battalion? are they focused on mine clearing, bunker busting or laying mines and create defence structures etc?  Having just one platoon and a few trucks must limit them in their capabilities? 

/Chainsaw

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Talking about Engineers, what are their task in the battalion? are they focused on mine clearing, bunker busting or laying mines and create defence structures etc?  Having just one platoon and a few trucks must limit them in their capabilities? 

/Chainsaw

One squad is always mine clearing. Second squad create defence structures and minefields.Brigade as usual have engineer battalion.

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Part 3 - AT battalion

In light of recent ATGM discussion, we decided to prepare another part, this time dedicated to antitank battalion. It is no secret that overall typical AT capabilities of an MR brigade may be subpar to contemporary conventional targets. However, CMBS AT bat. TOEs are not entirely accurate even to older TOE’s which further diminished typical MR brigade AT capabilities. Before we proceed, a distinction between Artillery Brigade AT battalion and Motor-Rifle Brigade AT battalion needs to be made. AB AT Battalions are much larger and are generally uniquely comprised of Sp. ATGMs such as Khrizantema and Shturm-S. They are not the focus of this though.

1 - MR AT battalions have the following equipment:

  1. All AT battalions have at least one battery of 2A29R “Rapira” (MT-12) guns. Currently Ukrainian side has the proper representation of this artillery formation with both off and on map options available. This should also be done for the Russian side. In fact, a regular MT-12 battery for the Ukrainians is exactly the same as it should be for the Russians. That said, there are some discrepancies with IRL. Every MT-12 battery has a recon squad of 5 people with a PNSR station. These squads come mounted on an MTLB. Battery and squad command being armed with just binoculars for both, Ukrainian and Russian side seems a little weird, please refer to point 3.

  2. Most AT battalions have 2 sp.ATGM batteries. Those batteries are made of two or three ATGM platoons. Each platoon has three ATGM vehicles (as in CMBS) *To note, 9P149 batteries have MTLBs as command vehicles, 9P148 platoons have BRDM-2.

  3. Around two thirds of all sp.ATGM batteries are Shturm-S. As of 2009 around 260 9P148 vehicles were reported by the Russian MoD as both in-storage and in-service. Russian Arms, Military Technology, Analysis of Ru Army, 2012. For comparison, a total of 860 9P149 vehicles was available as of 2012. Russian Arms, Military Technology, Analysis of Ru Army, 2012 We feel that rarity points need to be revised, swapping uncommon values between two vehicles.

  4. As of 2010 AT battalions begun receiving 9P163-2 “Kornet-T” complexes based on BMP-3’s. Confirmed number of of received vehicle is 10 in 2010 Source and 20 in 2013 Source. Judging by government order 14-4-51/982/ЗК from 9.12.2013, a total of 200 9M113M and 9M113MF rockets were delivered. We don’t want to assume there were more vehicles delivered to the army in the years 11, 12, 14 and 15, but that would be our fairest guess based on munitions order. This vehicle would be welcomed in CMBS. [1], [2], [3] .

To reiterate, Khrizantema is absent from AT Battalion equipment nomenclature, and is deployed only in artillery brigades.

2. Motor-rifle brigades have two common AT battalion structures:

  • Two batteries of three ATGM platoons plus one “Rapira” battery;
  • Two batteries of two ATGM platoons plus two “Rapira” batteries.

It might be worth reflecting both as official available typical formations. If not, then this nuance might be interesting to reflect in scenario building.

3. All command formations, from battery HQ’s to battalion HQ have LPR-1 or equivalent (LPR-2/LPR-3). This piece of equipment was first seen in 1988 TOEs. It is also important to note that AT Battalion officers are usually artillery graduates and have respective knowledge.  

Part 4 - General equipment observations (cont.)

-Currently thermobaric and regular HE rockets are universally ignored in CMBS. I’ve touched on them in the armor thread, but they are very relevant here too. Every ATGM system in Russian service today has both HEAT and HE munition option.

-More advanced HE ammunition are not always available for ATGM systems when they should be. One notable example is the 9M120 missile for Shturm-S system. I first had my doubts that it could be mounted and launched from a regular 9P159 vehicle, but the manufacturer’s site says otherwise: Source.

-As of 2014, Shturm-SM is in Service by the Russian MoD. Key difference to Shturm-S is thermal and TV equipment and standard issue 9M120 missile family. This also includes an HE airburst variant. Despite all the web photos of stock Shturm-S being presented as SM, this is actually it: Link.  

-While BRDM-2A (CMBS BRDM-2M) are in widespread service, we have been unable to identify similar chassis modifications for the 9P148 complex. As of now we believe this modification does not exist. The military balance 2015 reports Ru MoD fielding over 1000 BRDM-2’s, but they have not been produced for 26 years, which means most of them are storage material. It is currently unknown if only BRDM-2A’s remain in service, but that would be a fair guess.

 

PS - I understand devs are busy with a lot of projects, but just a short response on whether all of this is being read. Sorry for sounding pushy, we're just trying to help :P.

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1- Some squads in CMBS tend to have both PKP’s and PKM’s. That is a dubious combination unconfirmed by actual deployment personnel or exercise reports. PKP shares 80% of the kit with PKM, so general replacement happened very quickly. However, there are some remote formations that still have only PKM’s. To note, they more than likely don’t apply to CMBS rapid deployment scenario. It is important to note though, few BMP battalions that still have not received PKP’s, use RPK-74M’s on squad level. BMP Battalions that have received PKP’s use them both on platoon and squad level. Consequently BMP platoons can either have 4xPKP, or 1xPKM+3xRPK-74M.

 

Are you sure about that friend? Can you think of any present-day Motor-Rifle units that deploy RPKs at squad level? I have not see reference to any since the "Serdyukov" reforms of late 2000's. I am only aware of Russian Naval Infantry continuing to use RPKs (God knows why); but I would appreciate any sources pointing to the contrary...

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Talking about Engineers, what are their task in the battalion? are they focused on mine clearing, bunker busting or laying mines and create defence structures etc?  Having just one platoon and a few trucks must limit them in their capabilities? 

/Chainsaw

According to old Ukrainian field manual (actually copy of late Soviet), engineer-sapper platoon of battalion has a task: 

- minefields laying. Two engineer-sapper squads can set one minefield (500-600 m wide of AT-mines or 300 m AP mines) in front of positions of one company strong point per night (10-12 hours). 

- minecleaning. Two engineer-sapper squads per night can make two passing in enemy minefield. For this every squad has 6 mine-detectors, one KR-I mine search&remove kit (six probing robs, three 30 m grapnels for booby-trap removing and AP-mines drugging off, one scissors for barbed wire cutting, kit of flags for mines marking).

- tranches digging, blindages building and establishment of command point of battalion. This is duty of third engineer-position squad of platoon, wich abscent in CM TO&E. It has only two servicemen anf PZM-2 or PZM-3 earth mover (on base of T-150 tractor). In position building also participate two engineer-sapper squads, which have two motor-saws. In first order engineer-position squad build positions for command point of battalion. For 10-12 hours it can to dig 3 km of positions

In real situation, before war began, Ukrainian battalions hasn't engineer platoon, which were removed from structure. Its were included again, when the war started, but turned out almost w/o equipment. Most need for their purpose turned out modern chainsaws and electricity generators, which were dilivering by volunteers. Main weapon of sappers turned out primitive probing robs, lack of servicable mine-detectors was in whole overpassed at the end of 2014. But even now problem still sharp. Big number of losses to this time fall on mines and booby-traps. 

   

 

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Are you sure about that friend? Can you think of any present-day Motor-Rifle units that deploy RPKs at squad level? I have not see reference to any since the "Serdyukov" reforms of late 2000's. I am only aware of Russian Naval Infantry continuing to use RPKs (God knows why); but I would appreciate any sources pointing to the contrary...

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if wont to find more - you can find more, Russian army is large.

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Are you sure about that friend? Can you think of any present-day Motor-Rifle units that deploy RPKs at squad level? I have not see reference to any since the "Serdyukov" reforms of late 2000's. I am only aware of Russian Naval Infantry continuing to use RPKs (God knows why); but I would appreciate any sources pointing to the contrary...

They are getting increasingly hard to find outside of Naval Infantry. Ah, ninja'd with pics, I'll add one more for reference from INDRA 2014 [1].

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Gentlemen, Thank you both. I find that pretty interesting. Any idea on whether there is any reason for this or is that just due to some organizational oversight? I also wonder if that's a case of squad level gunners using RPKs in peace-time and then switching to PKMs/PKPs before deploying to a combat zone; as was a common practice with units deploying to KTO in North Caucasus in late 1990s..

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Same reasons why legacy equipment is still in use. 

  • It is available in the armory or storage. So for everyday service and practice it is what is used to prolong service life of new equipment.
  • There are three types of readiness, "A", "B", "C". A being maximum readiness and fully staffed, C being the exact opposite. Sometimes "B" units linger in-between having halved personnel and using storage equipment as primary. 
  • Some formations just aren't ones going into battle and get their equipment from a "trickle down effect", for example commandant companies, and military police.

As we mentioned, these types of variations are either rare or probably not the most applicable to CMBS. Despite that, we felt that if we are going to prepare information, might as well prepare all of it. 

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Guys RPK isn't a bad weapon at all, And it should still be in use with some squads, But it shouldn't replace in the squad roles PKPs and PKMs. BTR this is a great post, But there are also some other things that I found are missing in this game for squad structures. All Squad leaders in squads(RU) should have NVG of 2nd or 3rd gen, In fact in my squad I was what is pronounced "Efreitor" Basically you could say I also kept everyone in order and directed too, I was also issued a NVG for night patrols, And some night drills. I believe it was of 2nd gen, If illumination rounds were fired just from memory I could probably see out to 300 meters and identify a standing individual on normal terrain. Of course these were drills and non-combat patrols, In war time each squad member would probably receive NVG. Also there isn't any formation moving which would really help in certain situations. 

There is a formation movement for urban street clearing and advancing called "Troika" I won't explain it but you can search it up maybe you can find it. That would really help out in situations. I really would like to see more dynamic infantry mechanics. And other equipment which aren't put in for the Russian side. For example SVD teams are common but each squad has a SVD issued, Special Purpose snipers can be attached to companies' which use weapons like SV-98, KSVK, Ect. ect. 

Optical sights are common in Russian high readiness units, Being of the 4x variants and 2x. Even so accuracy seems to be a issue with Russian and Ukrainian soldiers. And I personally can hit with a Iron sight of AK-74M out to 200-250 meters with high accuracy. Maybe the gun accuracy of AK-74 and 74M are off? Either way atleast the SL, Efreitor, And MG of the squads should be issued optics.

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NVG's are very much dependent on what branch you had your service at. VDV (I believe your branch) obviously has a preference for all types of optical enhancers and aiming devices. Regular army is a much more modest and varied picture. My personal experience was even more modest than infantry would have, albeit that was some time ago already. 

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1- Some squads in CMBS tend to have both PKP’s and PKM’s. That is a dubious combination unconfirmed by actual deployment personnel or exercise reports. PKP shares 80% of the kit with PKM, so general replacement happened very quickly. However, there are some remote formations that still have only PKM’s. To note, they more than likely don’t apply to CMBS rapid deployment scenario. It is important to note though, few BMP battalions that still have not received PKP’s, use RPK-74M’s on squad level. BMP Battalions that have received PKP’s use them both on platoon and squad level. Consequently BMP platoons can either have 4xPKP, or 1xPKM+3xRPK-74M.

 

 

7- Most BMP motor-rifle companies have 11 vehicles, 3 per platoon and 2 for command. This is a leftover from when companies had a organic MANPADS section. There are alternative, “strengthened”, brigade companies with organic AGL’s. These companies have 12 (one AGL squad) or 14 (full AGL platoon of 3 squads) BMP vehicles. Some experimental ORBATS also include 4 BMP’s per platoon instead of 3, but I am not sure this variation should be considered until it is more widespread.

 

8- Every company is equipped with a short-range doppler-effect recon station and has a one trained operator for it. They are usually attached to the command squad. These have been standard issue since late 60’s. First such station, PSNR-1, was introduced to service in 1966, albeit not on company level back then. SBR-3, the first doppler station for company-level use was introduced into active service in 1976. Tactically, this recon station is similar to company-level small UAV’s used by the US army. In terms of CMBS, there are two stations that need to be covered -SBR-3 “Fara/Fara-U” from 1976 and SBR-5 “Fara-1” (Headlight) introduced into service in 1999. Ultimately, the code for this is already in game with BRM-1 and 3 using PSNR-5 and PSNR-5M.

 

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The mechanized infantry units mainly in the squad already PKM machine guns / control panel. RPK-74 machine guns mainly in the Airborne and the Marines, because the necessary mobility.

P.S. My opinion of the PKK in the squad in the form of what it is not needed until the store on 60 shots, or drums up to 100 shots.

В мотострелковых частях преимущественно в отделениях уже пулемёты ПКМ/ПКП . Пулемёты РПК-74 преимущественно в ВДВ и морской пехоте , по причине необходимой мобильности .

П.С. Моё мнение РПК в отделении в том виде какой он есть не нужен , пока не появится магазин на 60 выстрелов или барабан до 100 выстрелов .

 

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I can assure you Most BMP motor-rifle companies have 10 vehicles . There was an offer at Serdyukov to enter into a company the 4th platoon and the 2th BMP in management of a company. There would be then 14 BMP in a company .Concerning MANPADS that they are given for each BMP in laying, but it on cases of the large conflict if at the opponent is present aircraft.

Я могу тебя уверить что роты на БМП всё ещё на 10 машинах . Было предложение ещё при Сердюкове ввести в роту 4 взвод и 2-ю машину в управление роты . Тогда было бы тогда 14 БМП в роте .По поводу ПЗРК типа "ИГЛА" то они выдаются на каждую БМП в укладку , но это на случаи крупного конфликта если у противника присутствует авиация .

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Idea good but as I described earlier. Don't train people for these stations of investigation, the position is on the staff of a company. And the soldier doesn't know as to use this station of investigation.

Идея хорошая , но как я описывал ранее . На эти станции разведки не обучают людей , должность есть в штате роты . А солдат не знает как пользоваться этой станцией разведки . 

 

Sorry guys for my bad English, taught another foreign language.

Извиняюсь парни за мой плохой английский язык , учил другой иностранный язык .

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