Col Deadmarsh Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 If I have a tank behind low or high bocage engaging an enemy tank sitting in open ground, what kind of an advantage does my tank receive? Also, does low bocage provide better cover vs a stone wall? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletpoint Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I haven't done strict testing, but in my experience, the bocage does block some of the incoming rounds. HE especially often bursts harmlessly, but I'm pretty sure I've seen many cases where the bocage blocked AP shells too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 "Some". It's "Some" better. Tall Bocage is certainly far better concealment, though by no means conferring invisibility on your tank if the tank can see to shoot through. The berm of the Bocage is pretty much impervious to fire, and the Tall Bocage berm is probably as tall as a low wall, though I feel the Low Bocage berm only really gives hard cover to prone troops. One thing to be clear on is whether there are trees sprouting out of the Bocage line. In "Show nearby Trunks only" mode, it's easy to miss some kinds of trees in hedges, and the trunks do provide substantial protection. Your lurking tank will have an advantage. It is literally impossible to quantify that advantage in any general sense, since we cannot measure the pertinent conditions accurately enough. You might be able to address a specific matchup (range, equipment, soft factors, environment) statistically, given enough patience and repetitions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I do find bocage to be effective at stopping bazooka rounds, much to my chagrin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 High Bocage generally stop HEAT rounds (unless pieces of you tank, like the barrel, are poking through the bushes), but other than that, it' s nothing but concealment. Imagine a tank poking it' s barrel through a large bush, that' s about as much concealment as Boacage gives you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The biggest issue is getting the tank behind the bocage to spot the target. You've got to experiment and find the location which gives a good TARGET line. I found, in the past, that "parallel parking" next to the bocage and giving a covered arc (turret pointed through the foliage) usually gave me better spotting. See what works for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Jack Ripper Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I found, in the past, that "parallel parking" next to the bocage and giving a covered arc (turret pointed through the foliage) usually gave me better spotting. That also helps if you need to move quickly, you don't have to wait for the driver to turn the hull, you can just go full speed ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanL Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Interesting I never thought of doing that but pointing you side armour towards the enemy sounds dangerous to me. I'm not sure if I could bring my self to do that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It's not MY side armor! It's my MEN'S side armor. Makes all the difference in the world... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mord Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 c3k would've been a great commander...in WWI. Mord. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agusto Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c3k Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Now, don't get me wrong: I -try- to protect my men, but they shrug off my efforts and demand to storm the enemy to prove their worth to me. It's a burden, but I carry it without complaint. In fact, I tell my men I envy them the ease with which they so willingly give up their pathetic, drab, pointless little lives for me. Sigh. Ken 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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