BTR 132 Posted July 12, 2015 Author Share Posted July 12, 2015 Meh, forgot: http://i.imgur.com/qu3pwts.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VE8BY4R.jpg Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Share Posted July 13, 2015 (edited) PRP-4M obr. 2003 http://i.imgur.com/cWhFt0l.jpg http://bastion-opk.ru/VVT/PRP-4_150225_02.jpg A - Storage boxes on both sides are missing. B - Radar is modelled closed, however on other vehicles it is functional, as it should be on this vehicle. C - All optics are modelled closed. 9P148 Konkurs obr. 1991 http://i.imgur.com/SECt2DY.jpg https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3310/69185483.550/0_12a5a9_559d971c_XL.jpg A - There are no side viewing ports on the 9P148 B - The actual vehicle's name is 9P148 Konkurs, not BRDM-2 AT-5. Edited July 13, 2015 by BTR 2 Link to post Share on other sites
c3k 718 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 BTR, Your screenshots, backed up with photos, are very helpful. Thanks. Ken Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Thank you. I think this pretty much sums up the RU lineup. I'll take a look at UkR side of things, but I don't think there is going to be much of anything to find there. Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) In terms of UkR side of things, the thing that I can see, is that Tunguska-M looks exactly the same. Look at the optics on this Tunguska-M and then compare them to how in-game they look. Also note how the radar looks (rectangle vs oval): Edited October 7, 2015 by BTR Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 B - Laser rangefinder is missing. An honest mistake as it get’s taken down most of the time. I take that back for BMP-3/K/M for 2015. The rangefinder is appropriately mounted on the turret. However, could be a good case for CMSF with earlier, export BMP-3's. Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Something I haven't notices before, but that can be quite importantT-90MShttp://i.imgur.com/R5BSKRR.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/dMF87pU.jpg E - Lower turret ERA is not present. Edited November 29, 2015 by BTR Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Ausf B 268 Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 Good catch Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted November 29, 2015 Author Share Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) To note, that particular real-life picture is from an early T-90MS. Proper IDEX '15 model is modeled in CMBS, which has improved ERA coverage.For better reference: Edited November 29, 2015 by BTR Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 (edited) Did this in light of my investigation into recon battalion TOEs. BRDM-2A (BRDM-2M) obr. 2008http://i.imgur.com/9nLSI5J.jpg http://i.imgur.com/RbNZ11t.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/vtkSRLp.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/sqOjHPs.jpgA - BRDM-2A has BTR-70 doors on both sides.B - BRDM-2A has widened wheelbase, wheels and suspension from BTR-80.C - CMBS model is missing has extended mudguards that came with the extended wheelbase.D - The lower front cover on the 2A(M) model looks shorter.E - The nose-cone shape is a little off.F - NV, traffic and nav lights are way too big and are of a strange arrangement. G - RW Mirrors are missing.H - Sidewheels are removed on BRDM-2AI - BRMD-2A has different back-vent configuration that came with its diesel engine. IN case anyone needs all of my previous findings in one place here is the google doc I use with all the model IRL discrepancies in one place: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m2xIW__DRVWWugbz2h_BJZPbMd75hCkbXQwDMJ_EHlk/edit Edited December 8, 2015 by BTR Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Ausf B 268 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Great stuff! Keep it coming. Link to post Share on other sites
Leka 0 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 BMP-3M (ERA) is missing some era tiles from turret. or is that because those tiles are hard to see so they are left out intentionally? ERA however didn't work (M320, partial penetration)and BMP-3M (Arena) have ERA that it shouldn't have... Link to post Share on other sites
Kieme(ITA) 566 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Nice findings as Always. About the Arena... is it possible that the ready to be used APS explosives work as a passive ERA too? Link to post Share on other sites
DougPhresh 213 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 (edited) I thought that variant (ARENA turret) had turret ERA? That's what I seem to recall.Adding turret ERA to the ERA variant would be a huge improvement in my opinion. Edited January 2, 2016 by DougPhresh Link to post Share on other sites
Leka 0 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It seems that those arena ammunitions indeed acts as era too:"A. Arena’s ammunition panels, located around the turret, act as the turret’s ERA, providing protection if the selected ammunition fails to function."From old article: Active Protective Systems: Impregnable Armor or Simply Enhanced Survivability? (1998) Link to post Share on other sites
DougPhresh 213 Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 Manual shows it with ERA as well. Link to post Share on other sites
akd 428 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 It seems that those arena ammunitions indeed acts as era too:"A. Arena’s ammunition panels, located around the turret, act as the turret’s ERA, providing protection if the selected ammunition fails to function."From old article: Active Protective Systems: Impregnable Armor or Simply Enhanced Survivability? (1998) Hmm...I find this very hard to believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Kieme(ITA) 566 Posted January 3, 2016 Share Posted January 3, 2016 Since the ammunition for the ARENA consists in a row of close toghether bricks that are filled with explosive and act as an ERA when launched in the air, I belive they are as effective as any other "passive" ERA (ok it's active), when they don't blow up by ARENA's call... therefore I belive they are treated as a row of ERA bricks around the turret. Link to post Share on other sites
DougPhresh 213 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 BTR - I found a great resource (In English, sorry) to use!!BMP 3http://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.my/2014/10/bmp-3-underappreciated-prodigy.htmlBTR 80http://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.my/2014/11/btr-80.htmlT-72http://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.my/2015/05/t-72-soviet-progeny.html(T-90 and BTR 82 are upcoming) Link to post Share on other sites
snarre 47 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 huh ! nice article about t 72 , now i know all of it Link to post Share on other sites
BTR 132 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) I don't generally trust western sources on our technology, unless they are explicitly DoD test reports, because they tend to rehash our domestic material without taking in lobbying angles put in by different publications. Edited January 5, 2016 by BTR Link to post Share on other sites
Webwing 13 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 You will be interested to know that all issues mentioned in these posts are being addressed. I can´t give a date when it will be done but I can say we have been working on it for some time. If you have any additional observations to make regarding Russian/Ukranian hardware now is the time to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Ausf B 268 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 @BTR Link to post Share on other sites
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