bruce90 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 In Combat Mission Fortress Italy V1.20 if I go to the Editor, select 'British Army' then a Formation unit, say a Forward Observer then in Specialist Teams, 'Vickers', I get a 'Machinegun Detachment (Vickers)' consisting of 3 men armed with a Thompson a Vickers machinegun and a rifle. If I do the same thing in Combat Mission Battle for Normandy v3.11 Game Engine 3, I get a '2IC Team (Vickers)' consisting of 3 men armed with Stens. No Vickers Machinegun. Is that how it should be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Well, that looks like a buglet. I note that you can't pick a straight "Infantry" FO "formation" (at least in September), and have to pick a Mech Inf one... I also tried it with picking an Antitank battery as the "parent" formation, and got similar result "2IC Team" but with the second member having a rifle instead of the Sten (or the Vickers he should be toting). Going to Brit, Airborne Infantry (where there is a "FO" formation, not that I think it's anything to do with the parent...), I get a 4 man team with a Vickers as expected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 Reported. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce90 Posted March 24, 2015 Author Share Posted March 24, 2015 Thanks for your replies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Bull Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Nice pickup. Wow, odd it took this long to be reported. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 I suspect the ready availability of MG teams in infantry formations, including self-contained machine gun-based formations (the Support Company) means that it's rare for people to want to buy standalone MGs in QBs. However, looking at the cost, the overhead for having the command teams, combined with the Formation surcharge means you'd be better off buying MGs as "specialist teams" even if you're going for a whole company of 'em: you only get four MGs per support company... So if people were being "points-efficient" and playing with Brit infantry-only games, they would have noticed this sooner. So they're either not too bothered about their points or are tending to go for the mechanised infantry units... Interestingly, I noticed while checking that a "Detachment" was just the single gun, that the 2IC team of a self-contained "Support Company" has the icon of an MG team. I'd deleted the 2IC team of the motor rifle battalion Support Company, so I don't know whether that one does too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeutschRitter Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) This bug is still there! We wanted to play CMNormandy. My brother bought a vicker single team and got a 2IC Team with mg icon but no mg! Edited April 24, 2017 by DeutschRitter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ushankashenk Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Still no fix. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Canadian Cat Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Well that's frustrating - it was marked as fixed - I have reopened it. Not sure if it got reintroduced in 4 or was never fixed. I know I never retested it so I am not sure. Anyway it is back in the queue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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