Nitouche Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 (From Combatmission.fr) Direct Link to the article (in french langage) Enjoy ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipanderson Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Nitouche, hi, That is clever stuff... Thanks... . All the best, Kip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadsword56 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Agreed. And its genius strikes me as particularly French, in the same tradition of systematizing and rationalizing that gave us the metric system, Escoffier's hierarchy of sauces in la grande cuisine, the denomination of origin system for wines, the Napoleonic Code, etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oddball_E8 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I predict that the russians will be the winners of pretty much all battles that take place in dense fog and Evening/Night/Morning... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitouche Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 Agreed. And its genius strikes me as particularly French, in the same tradition of systematizing and rationalizing that gave us the metric system, Escoffier's hierarchy of sauces in la grande cuisine, the denomination of origin system for wines, the Napoleonic Code, etc. LOL ! I Forgot : For the first part ("clear" to "dense fog"), the values are for 22 june (summer solstice) and measured with CMRT. For the second part (Flurries to Blizzard), the values are for 22 december (Winter Solstice - measured with CMFI) I predict that the russians will be the winners of pretty much all battles that take place in dense fog and Evening/Night/Morning... Definitely agree 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Impressive amount of work that went into the LOS chart. I may have to print a copy and put up on the wall of my HQ bunker. I am trying to figure out why some of the boxes have N/A. (To me N/A stands for Not Applicable) For example light rain at 5H (0500hrs) is marked as N/A. Does that indicate that the light rain has no influence on spotting at 0500hrs? Clear is also N/A at 0500hrs. I would think there would be some kind of reduced visibility caused by light rain and compared to clear. Am I reading/interpreting the chart correctly? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeDog Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I would assume N/A simply means that Maximum LOS is longer than the maximum tested distance under at these conditions, which was apparently something longer than 2880m. Bear in mind that "Unlimited" max LoS doesn't necessarily mean zero spotting degradation. IOW, units may theoretically be able to see over 3km at 0500hrs in light rain, but this doesn't mean that, on average, they'll spot a given enemy unit at a given distance as quickly in light rain as they would under perfectly clear conditions, just that they have a >0% chance of spotting at that distance. Also note that CMBN does track changes to light by date and theater, so the above chart presumably is accurate only for a certain date; my guess is on or near to 6/22, which is the Summer Solstice. Change the date to late September 30, a full week after the Autumn Equinox, and LoS conditions in the early morning and evening hours particularly will show changes. Phase of the moon is tracked, too. So visibility particularly at night under clear conditions will vary depending on the phase of the moon, and whether the moon is currently above the horizon or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitouche Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 I would assume N/A simply means that Maximum LOS is longer than the maximum tested distance under at these conditions, which was apparently something longer than 2880m. Bear in mind that "Unlimited" max LoS doesn't necessarily mean zero spotting degradation. it is quite right. N / A means "probably/theorically unlimited." Tests show that LoS can theorically reach 5000 meters and more (with CMRT) but becomes very uncertain beyond about 3000 meters (flat ground). With CMFI, it's impossible to test beyond about 2000 meters. That's what "?" means 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOS:96B2P Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 N / A means "probably/theorically unlimited." Tests show that LoS can theorically reach 5000 meters and more (with CMRT) but becomes very uncertain beyond about 3000 meters (flat ground). With CMFI, it's impossible to test beyond about 2000 meters. That's what "?" means Okay. That helps. Thanks for the chart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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