para Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 (ignoring what appears to be a post in the wrong thread...) ...it looks like we need some trial and error here to figure out what's going on. Can some kind person with this problem (h2hh won't work on Win7) try the "tryme" application from here: http://bit.ly/h2hh-debug Thanks, GaJ I downloaded this GAJ ran it. All that i see is a message in a black box saying..''it seems to be working..yay!'' there is no instructions on what to do next.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultradave Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 I ran the tryme program and it worked on my W7 Parallels on my MacBook Pro. But H2HH works fine for me. Just thought I'd chime in in case it helps. Dave 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks Para. That's what it was supposed to do. It tells me that there is something special about H2HH that is not in this simple program that is making H2HH not work. It will be trial and error from here to find out what that is... standby... GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Thanks Para. That's what it was supposed to do. It tells me that there is something special about H2HH that is not in this simple program that is making H2HH not work. It will be trial and error from here to find out what that is... standby... GaJ i see ok cheers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 OK ... anyone... try tryme 0.0.3. GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 OK ... anyone... try tryme 0.0.3. GaJ I ran v3. Just a lot of script scrolled past very quickly in an ms-dos type black box. Then it closed itself 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Ooo.... that's a step forwards. I need to figure out how to catch that script.... thanks... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 OK - this is a bit tricky to explain. Hopefully someone can figure it. Please go to the folder where you extracted tryme, and right click on tryme.exe Select "create shortcut". Right click on the shortcut it created, and select "properties". It should look something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnbw8731x0u0rd3/Screenshot%202013-12-24%2014.36.33.png except your folder location will be different to mine. What you need to do is edit the "Target". First, put double quotes at each end of it. Then put a space in front of it. Then put this in front of that space: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K It should end up looking something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r73c4x200wwcxf4/Screenshot%202013-12-24%2014.36.50.png Then... click "Apply" and double click the shortcut. Hopefully, the ms-dos window stays open and you can tell me what's in it! GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 OK - this is a bit tricky to explain. Hopefully someone can figure it. Please go to the folder where you extracted tryme, and right click on tryme.exe Select "create shortcut". Right click on the shortcut it created, and select "properties". It should look something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rnbw8731x0u0rd3/Screenshot%202013-12-24%2014.36.33.png except your folder location will be different to mine. What you need to do is edit the "Target". First, put double quotes at each end of it. Then put a space in front of it. Then put this in front of that space: C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /K It should end up looking something like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r73c4x200wwcxf4/Screenshot%202013-12-24%2014.36.50.png Then... click "Apply" and double click the shortcut. Hopefully, the ms-dos window stays open and you can tell me what's in it! GaJ this what i got.... The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. C:\Users\ALIEN\Downloads\try-me-0.0.3> I also managed to do a pause break and grabbed some more text for you GAJ..I am not sure this all of it though..... Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 6, in <module> File "__main__.py", line 128, in <module> File "__main__tryme__.py", line 95, in <module> File "controller.py", line 47, in __init__ File "appstate.py", line 60, in __init__ File "old_appstate.py", line 34, in open File "old_appstate.py", line 30, in __init__ File "old_permadict.py", line 30, in __init__ File "shelve.py", line 239, in open File "shelve.py", line 223, in __init__ File "anydbm.py", line 82, in open error: db type could not be determined Fatal Error - I tried valiantly, but can't recover! Error in sys.excepthook: Traceback (most recent call last): File "__main__tryme__.py", line 71, in catchallHook NameError: global name 'exit' is not defined Original exception was: Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 6, in <module> File "__main__.py", line 128, in <module> File "__main__tryme__.py", line 95, in <module> File "controller.py", line 47, in __init__ File "appstate.py", line 60, in __init__ File "old_appstate.py", line 34, in open 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Can you right click on the shortcut, select properties, and send me a screenshot. Meanwhile, what you have captured looks like excellent clues, thanks! GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Can you right click on the shortcut, select properties, and send me a screenshot. Meanwhile, what you have captured looks like excellent clues, thanks! GaJ Will do later today when i get home from work GAJ. I think i made an error following your instructions somehow. I would imagine it was supposed to run differently to how it did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 here you go GAJ hope this helps the ms-dos box says The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect. C:\try-me-0.0.3> the proerties shortcut says C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /K ''C:\try-me-0.0.3\tryme.exe'' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Based on the error messages you captured from the dos window, it looks for all the world like H2HH can't read it's "state file" for some reason. This file should be stored at: c:\Users\<your username\App Data\Roaming\GreenAsJade\Appstate.txt Can you see if this file exists, and if you can open it with something like notepad? Please send it to me. Meanwhile, try tryme-0.0.4 ... it might also give us some better information. GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 This file should be stored at: c:\Users\<your username\App Data\Roaming\GreenAsJade\Appstate.txt Can you see if this file exists, and if you can open it with something like notepad? Please send it to me. Meanwhile, try tryme-0.0.4 ... it might also give us some better information. GaJ I cannot find this...................c:\Users\<your username\App Data\Roaming\GreenAsJade\Appstate.txt got this running tryme-0.0.4 Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 6, in <module> File "__main__.py", line 128, in <module> File "__main__tryme__.py", line 98, in <module> File "controller.py", line 47, in __init__ File "appstate.py", line 58, in __init__ NameError: global name 'value' is not defined Fatal Error - I tried valiantly, but can't recover! is there any particular place i am to put the h2hh programme? I just put it on c:\ drive and unzip it there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 There's no particular place you have to put H2HH. Did the dos window stay open better this time? Unfortunately that message wasn't what I was looking for, can you try 0.0.5? Thanks! GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 There's no particular place you have to put H2HH. Did the dos window stay open better this time? Unfortunately that message wasn't what I was looking for, can you try 0.0.5? Thanks! GaJ yes the box stayed open and that is all that appeared within it. ok here is tryme 5 Traceback (most recent call last): File "appstate.py", line 54, in __init__ File "permadict.py", line 29, in __init__ File "permadict.py", line 75, in load ValueError: File not in a supported format Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 6, in <module> File "__main__.py", line 128, in <module> File "__main__tryme__.py", line 98, in <module> File "controller.py", line 47, in __init__ File "appstate.py", line 54, in __init__ File "permadict.py", line 29, in __init__ File "permadict.py", line 75, in load ValueError: File not in a supported format Fatal Error - I tried valiantly, but can't recover! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Can I check something: this problem didn't start when you changed version of H2HH did it? I'm under the impression that you guys having the problem "didn't change anything, it just stopped working (maybe around the time windows updated)". Is that right? Anyhow, the error message you showed me tells me that we really need to try to find that file. I might not have given you decent instructions before so let's try a bit better. If this gets too hairy, we can always shout out for someone else to try it First, you need to follow the instructions that are here, which makes sure you can see "hidden" folders (you can turn this off again later if you don't like it): http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/show-hidden-files-in-windows-7/ Then - you need to be looking at the contents of your C: folder, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8v2pa8ftonl7fs/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.55.23.png Double-click on Users and you should be able to see a folder with your account name on it (I am mgregory): https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ukpp3j3fvkqblt/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.55.53.png Double click on this, and you should see a folder called AppData: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ygk6ns6brxz68p/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2014.05.06.png You won't see AppData unless you did the "show hidden folders" thing I mentioned above. Inside AppData there should be "Roaming", and inside that there should be GreenAsJade, and inside that there should be H2HHelper ... and inside there there should be AppState.txt: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lr0kx1ijkmzuq5/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.58.17.png First: surely this file must exist, since tryme got past the place where it tests that. If it doesn't, that will be the mystery for us to solve. The error message you have implies that it does exist. In which case, I need to know what's inside it when H2HH is not working. Can you send it to me? Can you also send me h2hh_log.txt. Assuming you found it, one other thing you can do is delete it then run H2HH again. H2HH is supposed to create that file if it's not there. Would be good to see if this happens... That's a bit to get on with Cheers, GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Can I check something: this problem didn't start when you changed version of H2HH did it? I'm under the impression that you guys having the problem "didn't change anything, it just stopped working (maybe around the time windows updated)". Is that right? Anyhow, the error message you showed me tells me that we really need to try to find that file. I might not have given you decent instructions before so let's try a bit better. If this gets too hairy, we can always shout out for someone else to try it First, you need to follow the instructions that are here, which makes sure you can see "hidden" folders (you can turn this off again later if you don't like it): http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/show-hidden-files-in-windows-7/ Then - you need to be looking at the contents of your C: folder, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/x8v2pa8ftonl7fs/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.55.23.png Double-click on Users and you should be able to see a folder with your account name on it (I am mgregory): https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ukpp3j3fvkqblt/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.55.53.png Double click on this, and you should see a folder called AppData: https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ygk6ns6brxz68p/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2014.05.06.png You won't see AppData unless you did the "show hidden folders" thing I mentioned above. Inside AppData there should be "Roaming", and inside that there should be GreenAsJade, and inside that there should be H2HHelper ... and inside there there should be AppState.txt: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9lr0kx1ijkmzuq5/Screenshot%202013-12-26%2013.58.17.png First: surely this file must exist, since tryme got past the place where it tests that. If it doesn't, that will be the mystery for us to solve. The error message you have implies that it does exist. In which case, I need to know what's inside it when H2HH is not working. Can you send it to me? Can you also send me h2hh_log.txt. Assuming you found it, one other thing you can do is delete it then run H2HH again. H2HH is supposed to create that file if it's not there. Would be good to see if this happens... That's a bit to get on with Cheers, GaJ Right my good man. I hope you had a good xmas? H2HH is now working again after following these instructions. I found the AppState.txt and deleted it and reran H2HH 2.10.1 and it correctly started . thanks for all your help wit this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Well, this would be a nice Christmas present if it works for everyone else too! Anyone else? GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDavid Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 It won't start for me either, not even for a blink. I tried to reach the AppState.txt but in the AppData>Roaming folder there is no H2HH folder for me, nor a GreenAsJade folder as in your screenshot. Any idea why it won't create the folder?.. I have Windows 7 too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Can I check: have you tried the very latest that is here: http://bit.ly/h2h-helper ... currently 2.10.7. This version is supposed to at least give a decent error message why it can't proceed... GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburke Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Just to say it, thanks for your continuing support for this product GAJ. Yeah I could play without it, but my work load would likely be at least double what it is now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaeger Jonzo Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 ive had problems with h2h last couple of days. It keeps not uploading correct files and then also stops working altogether. I deleted the appdata file and it restarted fine but then loses track of the turn orders. Its now stopped working again but I just noticed theres a newer version available, mine says its 2.4.4. Will upload the new one and see how I get on. ps I had the auto-update feature ticked so how come the software stayed out of date? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenAsJade Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Auto update refers to refreshing H2HH (looking at your folders and tracking incoming files) as opposed to hitting the "refresh" button. Hmmm - maybe I should name that "auto refresh"!! 2.4.4 is certainly way old: I can't help you with problems with that version. GaJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Can i echo what sburke stated earlier..this is a marvellous product and i would be lost without it. So thanks for keeping it going and updated GAJ GAJ is it possible to have the game launch from the save file straight into the game? If you know what i mean? At the moment the save file launches the game but only to the saved filed screen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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