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Looking at the steepness of some of the terrain i think the non excisting elevation restriction for tank guns will have to get more attantion soon.

I believe that's a necessary inconvenient abstraction because of the nature of the 3D terrain.. it is not as subtle as it would be in reality, thus some shortcuts have to be taken.

I don't know.. I'm fine with it as is, but I'm sure there could be some improvement.

Bil

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;1430406']We only have the QB AAR to go by' date=' but the terrain looks way too tank friendly. I don´t think that WWII era tanks could really roll up such broken terrain the way this is depicted in the game.[/quote']

That is a mapmaker decision.. terrain can always be made impassable to tanks by one means or another... but I think you'd be surprised at some of the terrain tanks can actually move over and into. What needs a face lift IMO is the bogging chances whenever a tank is taken into wooded, steep, or just plain nasty terrain, especially on the faster movement settings.

Bil

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The map does seem very tank oriented. Lots of open room and doesn't seem to be a lot of apparent cover =/

Can I ask, have both of you noticed your troops being spotted easily moving at range? Or are you still finding cover somehow? I'm reading your AARs and I cant go into specifics, and neither can you so for now a yes or no and very abstract answers of course.

Whats the other GL terrain like? Is it hugely varied because the timeframe, and nature of Italy? I ask because Sicily had a pretty uniform feel to me as opposed to Normandy. I know people will disagree citing Bocage, but they always seem to forget the terrain after St Lo, and in the British/Canadian sectors. This was part of the turn off to me with Sicily. There were exceptions but I felt most of the terrain was just very open and hilly. It favored tanks, and in a time where organic infantry AT is relatively weak, in the worst possible terrain to close assault tanks. It's not all bad I suppose, it is what it is, but I just prefer Normandy. I'm getting GL regardless, but I hope I'm looking forward to more varied scenery in the Med.

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Can I ask, have both of you noticed your troops being spotted easily moving at range? Or are you still finding cover somehow?

I think that both of us have used terrain masking to maneuver.. I can catch glimpses of his forces, and I'm sure he has glimpses of mine. So yes I think there is enough cover to maneuver.. what's hard is to maneuver without giving your intentions away.

Bil

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