permanent666 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 i do not know if this would be possible but i had this idea some days ago so: to get a full replay i have to save turn after turn in the replay phase. and if i want to watch it i would have to open one file after the other. so my question is would it be possible to combine all this saved files. the file size would be huge but hd movie files are huge as well so this would not be a problem for me. maybe loading times would be very very long but i think it would be worth to wait half an hour or longer. maybe ram would be a problem. so what do you think? would it be possible to make such a tool (for bf)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 i do not know if this would be possible but i had this idea some days ago so: to get a full replay i have to save turn after turn in the replay phase. and if i want to watch it i would have to open one file after the other. so my question is would it be possible to combine all this saved files. the file size would be huge but hd movie files are huge as well so this would not be a problem for me. maybe loading times would be very very long but i think it would be worth to wait half an hour or longer. maybe ram would be a problem. so what do you think? would it be possible to make such a tool (for bf)? There are half a dozen more efficient ways of doing this. Having 120 turns of a 2 hour battle loaded all at once would kill pretty much any machine, I'd imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzfeld Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 We have wanted this since CMBO. Keep on hoping! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinOrLose Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I am sure the feature would attract more people to the game so probably worth the investment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bud Backer Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Heck has anyone figured a way to record the replay (not using FRAPS, since I have a Mac)? I'd happily stitch them together if I knew how to record the action itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Heck has anyone figured a way to record the replay (not using FRAPS, since I have a Mac)? I'd happily stitch them together if I knew how to record the action itself. Once you've recorded the action, though, you've fixed the viewpoint, and much of the charm and value of replay is lost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Heck has anyone figured a way to record the replay (not using FRAPS, since I have a Mac)? I'd happily stitch them together if I knew how to record the action itself. Use the Quicktime Player. Shift-Apple-N will start a new recording. This does however only record what comes in through MIC. If you loop LINE-OUT to MIC then it works. Theres also third party software for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
permanent666 Posted January 6, 2013 Author Share Posted January 6, 2013 There are half a dozen more efficient ways of doing this. Having 120 turns of a 2 hour battle loaded all at once would kill pretty much any machine, I'd imagine. i am almost sure you are right but if we could get just 10 minutes of nonstop replay it would be great. i am wondering if the replay files and the command phase files are different 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 There are half a dozen more efficient ways of doing this. Having 120 turns of a 2 hour battle loaded all at once would kill pretty much any machine, I'd imagine. Looking at the size of individual savegames I'd say modern machines have plenty of resources. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Looking at the size of individual savegames I'd say modern machines have plenty of resources. Given that large vineyards or woodlands makes a lot of machines chug, I'd be of a different opinion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytarget Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Well, that's what forums are for, expressing opinions. And this particular topic has been brought up countless times over the last decade for a reason, because it's an idea that naturally flows out of the very core design of the series itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerner Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Wish they would somehow be able to adopt the process that IL 2 Sturmovik used, which allowed total replay of the battle, no matter how long it was. I'm no sure exactly the difference with CMBN and other game replay types, but essentially the game copied the computations/calculations the game processed, rather than copying the completed visuals of the turn or something like that. It would result in the occasional mismatch of what happened in the game and what it showed in playback (for example, your aircraft might be in a slightly different location in relation to the craft you shot down, and the tracers would be hitting thin air instead of the target), but it was a small price to pay for complete playback from any camera angle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanzfeld Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 What I don't understand is when I play a scenario I save every movie turn and keep it for awhile. After an hour I have 60 saves and it is not even a dent in todays cheap, large harddrives so why would resources be an issue? I would LOVE to watch my hour long continous war movie as I zoom around the battlefield. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Given that large vineyards or woodlands makes a lot of machines chug, I'd be of a different opinion. And why do you think this will be cumulative? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 And why do you think this will be cumulative? Because this: ...my question is would it be possible to combine all this saved files.... is the question that was asked. And the game files once loaded into the engine are a couple of orders of magnitude larger than they are on disk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytarget Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Hmmm, I still don't see storage as an impediment, I have 2 TB in my system currently, and 1 TB external. I could easily double or triple that w/o giving it a 2nd thought, I just currently have any no reason to. So, when you say orders of magnitude, my response to that would be, so... Or is the problem here then the game engine can't handle it? In which case a separate program would have to be devised to connect them all together for play back? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwolf Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Because this: is the question that was asked. And the game files once loaded into the engine are a couple of orders of magnitude larger than they are on disk. Yeah, you know somehow I don't think it'll add up all the polygons for all tress for 120 moves at once if you combine the savefiles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collingwood Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Heck has anyone figured a way to record the replay (not using FRAPS, since I have a Mac)? I'd happily stitch them together if I knew how to record the action itself. As well as Poesel's suggestion about Quicktime, you can use Screenflow. It's expensive but I think worth it. You can collect multiple captures, edit them, include transitions and text etc, decide whether to capture the computer audio or a mic, and so on. When capturing you can choose to not include the cursor. After the capture you can easily crop it. Finally it lets you export in a multitude of ways. I like to make little movies of CM battles without including the user interface, Screenflow does that very well. Mind you, prepare to give up multiple GBs of drive space if you want to capture a whole battle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yeah, you know somehow I don't think it'll add up all the polygons for all tress for 120 moves at once if you combine the savefiles. Sure, you could have it do something different with successive additive game files, but that's (an element of) one of the half dozen more efficient ways of doing it beyond "loading all the game files". Neither you nor I knows what's going on in the engine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnart Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It definitely would be cool, but I have a “FOLLOW” command on my most priority list. Replays were one of the great features Sudden Strike had. I would record multiplayer games and watch later. The great thing was you could freely move the camera during it so you could see your game from different perspectives, and also see how your teammates played. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steiner14 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 The argument that the replay would be too resource hungry doesn't convince me: 1. Instead of a fixed full battle replay, 10 minute chunks, or user-definable replay durations, could avoid that. 2. Each single one minute replay needs to load all terrain and unit data. But continuous files would not need that status data, since the previous action has updated the data anyway. Only the first file would need all the data, the rest of the files would only need to contain the updated information (= action). I guess the pure action data is only a fraction of the whole filesize. If a pre-rendering data extraction module could extract the update-data from the savefiles, the resulting files should be of considerably smaller sizes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Has anyone compared the size of a WEGO save with a RT save at the same point of time? The difference between these two (given the same amount of action) should be the amount of data needed to save one minute of CM (for this given battle). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easytarget Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 As this one slowly slips off the first page into oblivion anyone care to hazard a guess how long the average delay is between each new thread that brings it up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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