simast Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I am a bit confused. I know when your units are in bad shape/morale you can loose control for a turn or so. But what's with this mortar HQ squad: https://www.dropbox.com/s/73ttfzhgr893pt0/lostcontrol.jpg They are completely out of ammo, but this can't be the reason I can't give any commands to them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKfW Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Really annoyed at my Lynx crew in a game going at the moment. I lost control of the crew, who bailed out from the perfectly fine tank, when they were not under fire, in full view of a rifle squad about 150m away. Who then shot one of the crew as I remounted them next turn, shocking the tank crew - about 20 sec later on the same turn, a Priest showed up on a ridgeline about 200m dead ahead and took its leisurely time lining up the kill shot without any return fire from the Lynx. Grr... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simast Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 If I indeed lost control of this unit because they are out of ammo - that's funny. There is a truck 20m from where they are (not pictured in a screenshot) and I was actually bringing them to resupply there. The H2H game I am playing right now is full of surprises like this. Another thing I just noticed from the same game: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn2a3blz602f846/planning.jpg Note what the soldier is doing at the bottom-left corner of the screen. Never seen this in a CM game before.. While the gunner and team leader is chilling out - he is "planning" something. What exactly does this soldier state mean? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocal Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 What exactly does this soldier state mean? I've only seen it at a waypoint, when deciding what specific route to take to the next waypoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 That unit is out of control because they're about to board the truck that you're going to use for resupply. That's my guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simast Posted December 8, 2012 Author Share Posted December 8, 2012 That unit is out of control because they're about to board the truck that you're going to use for resupply. That's my guess. Hmm. I hope so, because I did give the command to mount the truck. But this movement command was with multiple waypoints (only the last waypoint for the mount), yet the icon was semi-transparent during all turn. I suppose with the next turn it will be clear if this was the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PzKfW Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 While the gunner and team leader is chilling out - he is "planning" something. What exactly does this soldier state mean? Pondering the meaning of life, sir. Pondering 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hmm. I hope so, because I did give the command to mount the truck. But this movement command was with multiple waypoints (only the last waypoint for the mount), yet the icon was semi-transparent during all turn. I suppose with the next turn it will be clear if this was the case. My impression is that if the unit will reach the vehicle and start embarking in the coming minute, they'll not be receptive to changes in their orders. Doesn't matter if there are multiple waypoints, just whether the first guy will get his foot on the running board "this turn". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Emrys Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 My impression is that if the unit will reach the vehicle and start embarking in the coming minute, they'll not be receptive to changes in their orders. Doesn't matter if there are multiple waypoints, just whether the first guy will get his foot on the running board "this turn". That's weird. I wonder why that's in. I've never observed this phenomenon, but I haven't been watching for it. I'll see if it turns up in any of my future games. Michael 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFF Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 That's weird. I wonder why that's in. I've never observed this phenomenon, but I haven't been watching for it. I'll see if it turns up in any of my future games. Michael It's been there for a long, long time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holman Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I've seen units go out-of-control in the ten or fifteen seconds prior to boarding a vehicle, but never for a whole turn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
womble Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I've seen units go out-of-control in the ten or fifteen seconds prior to boarding a vehicle, but never for a whole turn. That might depend on play style and the kind of orders you give your pTruppen, and how close to the transport they generally start etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 That's correct, the icon will grey out the moment the first guy starts to mount the vehicle and the squad will be out-of-command until the last guy gets in. The time it takes depends on how strung out the unit is, but if one of the squad is a "Lone Wanderer", you may lose control of them ( and the truck ! ) for a long period. Moral : Check that all members of a squad are together before trying to board a vehicle. The Lone Wanderer syndrome is more common to heavy weapons teams than other units, so this might be the case for the OP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poesel Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 An easy way to detect if a unit has LWS () is to look at the unit icon. The icon will always be at the middle of your troops and if its ways off than one guy got lost. But that's not the problem of the OP. This unit has three troopers and there are all together. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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