Guest John Maragoudakis Posted November 15, 1999 Share Posted November 15, 1999 Are the odds of hitting a vehicle dependent on the relative direction of the vehicle with respect to the shooter or only on the vehicles speed. Ie, is a tank coming straight for a bazooka team easier to hit than one that is going from side to side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Maragoudakis Posted November 15, 1999 Share Posted November 15, 1999 In otherwords, if a unit has weak front aromor, can I have it move lateraly to decrease the chance that it will get hit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Maragoudakis Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 maybe in CM2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 Yeah, that's a good question. I've wondered myself if weaving those Hellcats down the hill on Last Defense would be more effective than dashing them straight into town. Weaving would take longer, but make them harder to hit in reality because of the lateral and vertical alterations the firing unit would have to make to track it. Dashing straight into town would be quicker, but make for easier vertical tracking. Are those factors taken into consideration? Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 Well, based on what I've seen when playing with bazooka teams and Panzerschreck teams I'd have to say that laterally moving targets ARE more difficult to hit. I've had schrecks simply knock out myriads of vehicles driving almost straight towards them down a road BUT I've had very few kills once the vehicle is moving fast laterally. Of course if the vehicle is moving slowly laterally kill rates go up but a vehicle moving quickly laterally is very difficult to miss. Check out the "Dash O' Death" HT in the Alpha PBEM game.. It was fired at by 5 or 6 zooks and all missed cause it was dashing down a road and moving laterally to the zook teams for much of its travel. IF it had been rushing straight towards one the 2nd shot would surely have gotten it. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beamup Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 Quote: Of course if the vehicle is moving slowly laterally kill rates go up but a vehicle moving quickly laterally is very difficult to miss. Ah, Fionn, you did mean difficult to _hit_, didn't you? If not, I'm getting really, really, confused here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest John Maragoudakis Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 Not meaning to be too picky. When calculating chance of hit, is the range to target calculated according to where the target is or where it will be when the round intercepts the fast moving halftrack? The difference in both examples would be more apparent if the target was moving away from the shooter, [either to the side,(lateral), or in reverse direction, or if the target had overran your positon and was getting further away]. [This message has been edited by John Maragoudakis (edited 11-17-99).] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 yes, I meant hit rates sorry. I'm just so used to a hit being a kill with my trusty Schreck teams that I use the terms almost interchangeable when discussing team AT weapons. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted November 17, 1999 Share Posted November 17, 1999 You know, I wasn't even thinking at the time (I do that a lot--post, then think!), but if CM models the trajectory of individual shells and rockets, then they inherently have less chance to hit something moving laterally, right? I mean, the chance of the trajectory of a shell hitting something moving laterally as opposed to something moving directly toward or away from the firing unit is, by nature, less. Or am I posting before thinking after thinking after posting? Dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fionn Posted November 18, 1999 Share Posted November 18, 1999 I think you're right regarding the relative motion making it obviously more difficult to hit via sheer physics and the necessity of "leading" the target. ------------------ ___________ Fionn Kelly Manager of Historical Research, The Gamers Net - Gaming for Gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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