John1966 Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I've seen so many threads about broken tank crews denying the rightful victors objectives but so far it hasn't been a problem for me. I just read the posts and mutter to myself about proper sweep & clear etc. And then I've just had a 300pt objective that I'd occupied with two Panthers, two half-tracks and a couple of infantry denied because of a JEEP DRIVER hiding behind a wall. A jeep driver WITH NO JEEP. Because I'd blown it up. And he ran away. But not far enough it would seem. And to add insult to injury... SPOLIER... ...it was in the second Panzer Marsch scenario so the next mission tells me that because I FAILED(!), I am now surrounded and having to effect a breakout. Because a jeep driver was behind a wall??? Harumph! Anyway, just having an ineffectual moan about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanir Ausf B Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Did you check to see if the jeep driver was Chuck Norris? He could surround your force by running laps around it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurra Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 I feel your anger please: exclude tank crews and all kinds of driving personel from forces eligible to hold and defend objectives. Theoretically, they sure would be able to do such things, but their impact breakes the illusion of reality in the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franko Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 +1 zillion. Nothing hurts like playing a campaign for hours and having something mind-numbingly stupid like this. I mean, I'd rather play Battle Academy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzr_leader Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 kill everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee_Vincent Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Getting a bit tired of tank crews with pistols routing entire squads...after being ambushed...and in no cover... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GI Adelscott Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Getting a bit tired of tank crews with pistols routing entire squads...after being ambushed...and in no cover... I agree, sometimes is a really bad idea to destroy a tank... You never knows what kind of demons are using the enemy as crew... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boche Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 Proof that one man in the wrong place at the right time can change history! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1966 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 I've just noticed German truck drivers have MP40s (which seems a bit OTT to me). Perhaps the Wehrmacht had considered their potential as VL deniers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yeah I do too. I had a counter attack by three or four tank crews. They went on a rampage..all my hardwork went down the drain as they wiped out defenders who had held on and taken and destroyed everything that was thrown at them, except these nine men and their pistols. 1 hour of constant combat and finally nullifying that attack (During the Die Amis Komman scenario)only to then sh1t myself when I saw these tank men coming. What I had to do was go back a save (Luckly I had one not long before this assault was launched) and I had every thing I could fire at them. I still have three of them just lying there under a tree whilst Mg's\rifles\grenades\at guns and some HE killed the rest or they surrendered but it took about 4 or 5 turns to do it. They still took out a squad with ease though. I think any crew that had to bail out should immediately make their way out of the fight, and only fire when fired on, but never ever set out to attack. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javaslinger Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Has Battlefront ever commented on this? Do they consider it a bug or something to be re-balanced? Or have they just given their usual stubborn silence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLeftFlank Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Again, my suggestion is Scarce ammo -- allows some heroics and self-protection by crews, but not too much.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Yes they are aware and it's going to be fixed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statisoris Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Has Battlefront ever commented on this? Do they consider it a bug or something to be re-balanced? Or have they just given their usual stubborn silence? Stubborn silence, AKA (too busy working to post silence) as with most other questions and game issues. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyDog Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 My suggestion is that broken troops should not count as holding an objective if enemy troops are within 50 yards. IMHO the broken troops are not combat effective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1966 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 My suggestion is that broken troops should not count as holding an objective if enemy troops are within 50 yards. IMHO the broken troops are not combat effective. Absolutely. In some ways I quite like the idea of the heroic driver armed with nothing but a pistol stoically holding out against overwhelming odds to deny the enemy victory. But not if they're broken. All that would happen is they'd surrender the minute anyone found them so they can't be counted as occupying anything (or denying anyone else from doing so). Incidentally, why did the German truck drivers have MP40s? Makes them better armed than many other combatants on the battlefield. Those movies are apparently more accurate than I thought. Everyone has an MP40 in the movies... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodin Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I suppose it was due to Partisans... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1966 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 I suppose it was due to Partisans... True. Not something allied forces had to worry too much about. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Would be nice if once in a while BFC answered the questions rather than other people doing it for them just saying. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadepm Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 They are very busy cranking out Commmonwealth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baneman Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not all truck drivers have MP40's. In fact, I haven't seen one with an MP40. I'm playing a small scenario at the moment and I have 2 trucks. Both drivers ( and the driver of my Kubelwagen ) have Kar98's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1966 Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 Not all truck drivers have MP40's. In fact, I haven't seen one with an MP40. I'm playing a small scenario at the moment and I have 2 trucks. Both drivers ( and the driver of my Kubelwagen ) have Kar98's. Fourth scenario of Panzer Marsch. (The one where you've won scenario 3 - yes, I'm ashamed to admit I replayed scenario 3 from a previous save) All the truck drivers have MP40s. First I'd noticed but then possibly the first time I've had a German truck on my side. No idea if its default weaponry or something the sceanario designer has put in (I've never played with the editor in CMBN) but definitely MP40s. All the truck drivers. Must admit, I was rather surprised. Think I might dismount them and get them to assault the US positions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LemoN Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 They are very busy cranking out Commmonwealth. You mean cranking out a paid DLC instead of fixing large problems with the game and adding/removing things that should/shouldn't be there? What any sensible developer would do: 1. After launch, ask the community if there are any perceived problems or missing things. 2. If easy, tweak/implement and patch into the game, if not, move on. 3. Release Expansion that adds functionality that is not patchworthy. 3. ??? 4. Profit! Instead BFC seems to do this: 1. Release game that's barely working (CM:SF). 2. Tell the community that you'll implement improvements later. 3. Release DLC's en masse that don't add crucial functionality. 4. Release another game that has some of the improvements that should've been patched into the first game, still with many barely working things. (CM:BN) 5. Tell the community that you'll implement improvements later. 3. Release DLC's en masse that don't add crucial functionality. 7. Release another game that has some of the improvements that should've been patched into the second game, still with many barely working things. (Bulge) 8. Etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
para Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 You mean cranking out a paid DLC instead of fixing large problems with the game and adding/removing things that should/shouldn't be there? What any sensible developer would do: 1. After launch, ask the community if there are any perceived problems or missing things. 2. If easy, tweak/implement and patch into the game, if not, move on. 3. Release Expansion that adds functionality that is not patchworthy. 3. ??? 4. Profit! Instead BFC seems to do this: 1. Release game that's barely working (CM:SF). 2. Tell the community that you'll implement improvements later. 3. Release DLC's en masse that don't add crucial functionality. 4. Release another game that has some of the improvements that should've been patched into the first game, still with many barely working things. (CM:BN) 5. Tell the community that you'll implement improvements later. 3. Release DLC's en masse that don't add crucial functionality. 7. Release another game that has some of the improvements that should've been patched into the second game, still with many barely working things. (Bulge) 8. Etc. Careful, the masses of self appointed defenders of the faith will be descending upon on you very soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akd Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Now, now children. You'll get some candy soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.