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Hope that we could look at a more unique option for the next CM title then, some other cold war conflict might be interesting. The Philippines WW2? The pacific feels like the most deserving of something. or just do CMA 2

Wow folks it’s been a long time coming, excited for it to finally release.

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I speak Japanese, and have contact with a Japanese Military Historian. Please contact me for language/translation help if needed! Always wish there was more pacific content.

I initially mentioned this in my post on the 1000th page as well, but the reason I, and a significant amount of the community outside of this thread assumed so, is mostly due to none of the other listed release dates being upheld. For example, and most notably at the moment, Battle For Normandy, which was suppose to come a good few months ago on Steam. I've said my piece, and I've made my points clear, so I'll let everyone go back to talking about the war. I hope you consider my words as advice from a concerned observer and not as a malicious actor. All in all I hope the best for you and CM, and I happy when something does come our way.

What is particularly puzzling about this comment is the lack of consideration that development of CM and this thread really aren't mutually exclusive. Especially considering Cold War, which has it's own team dedicated to doing the work. As Steve said himself earlier, he doesn't do any of the coding. It's great that he's enjoying himself in this thread, but it leaves the greater community, that aren't regularly posting here, asking why everything has to be halted. The logic behind the apparent hold on game development is not sound, as I previously went over in my last post. It's really looking more like paranoia when it comes to Cold War. Importantly, I wanted to again note that I'm not trying to take a shot at BFC, I just, like the other people who enjoy this franchise, am frustrated with broken promises and stagnation. Maybe I'm wrong and there is development going on behind the scenes that we aren't privy to (I certainly hope this is the case), and the "very soon" comment from Steve materializes into something more than a 1000 page participation trophy. It's not too late to change course.

Though true that Slitherine controls the Steam sales, which they can opt into and out of at their leisure mind you, it doesn't negate the fact that both BFC and Slitherine are participating in the sale and profiting from it. As previously mentioned, publishers have control of their game's participation in a sale. Yes it is also true that it is an existing product, and all the other titles on Steam went on sale, but it still stands that you are putting the game on sale during the conflict while simultaneously refusing to work on the game during the conflict. Though from recollection, Slitherine has taken the same stance on anything Russia related. I understand the fear of living in a world where bad press could potentially prohibit participation in certain markets, but the morality reasoning isn't sound, and no matter what other factors exist, CMBS is still being put on sale, repeatedly, during the conflict. Stepping away from CMBS, the amount of updates regarding CMCW has also fallen to near complete silence except for tournament integration with Slitherine. If my assumption that the blockade on Russia related anything applies to this, I would be very disappointed. The game takes place in another era, with a different government, different flag (don't reply to this with a snarky remark about USSR flags popping up in Ukraine), and so clearly isn't promoting the Russian Federation that a journalist out for blood would be stumped finding enough straws to grasp into a headline. I don't see any reason why further content should be halted. Especially considering the team that put the idea together clearly (based on their forum posts and game-content contributions) is so enthusiastic about adding non-Russian factions that you would have a plethora of new content that pits the player against the Soviets. Using the same logic as @Battlefront.com did earlier, if you're promoting the Russian related content that was already out there, it's permissible. If you added the British, West-Germans, or even any of the other non-Russian WARSAW Nations, there would be no moral dilemma at all. I am a fan of CM, I want the best for the franchise as much as any other patron, but I am also admittedly irritated by the current direction. I made my post on the 1000th page out of love for the franchise, not spite, hate, or bitterness. Having played CMPE a good bit, I know there is so much potential for growth and improvement. I just hope it gets actualized and not left in the dust, that is all.

Ok, but as I mentioned, the game still has gone on sale multiple times during the war. Are we going to conveniently forget that? How is that not dangerously close to profiteering as is?

This is kind of exactly the point though, nothing will be released during the war, yet the game continues to go on sale? A little curious really. The reality is no one in the consumer base would actually care if they released the planned module or other planned modules during the conflict. The reason I suspect work ceased was because nearly none of the other release dates given, for products have nothing to do with the war, have been upheld so far. What concerns me most is that BFC has seen that taking 6 years to make a module is a still a successful venture (Fire & Rubble), so they know they don't need to be punctual to make money. This is really unfortunate for us consumers, but that's how it goes I suppose.

1000 pages, during which Black Sea has gone on sale multiple times on Steam, yet all development on anything related to Russia seems to have been halted because of the war. I don't understand this contradiction.

Thank you for the information, glad it was added.

Are there any other minor changes / bug fixes included in the update?

Will the module release at 1000 pages?

CM is probably the best infantry simulation on it's scale out there, considering the immense amount of detail put into their soft systems and equipment modeling. I do not think it's fair, or true, to say CM is a Tank Focused game. There are campaigns almost complete devoid of armor packaged into the games themselves. CM would need to update the engine to go back to when black powder weapons were most predominant on the contemporary modern battlefield. (Spanish-American war is pushing it). Either way any new CM would be nice considering that all of the expected content just got axed (delayed indefinitely) by the war. BFC doesn't like to tell us things early but it's been bone dry lately (pun intended). Some unique variety and spice to add to the franchise may well be needed. People have asked for a pre-WWII game for a long time, would be really excellent to see it happen in any form. Or something in the pacific (like the aforementioned Korean War). The transition from Trench Warfare to Maneuver warfare? Potentially a very interesting concept to attempt portraying on the scale CM specializes in.

Would it be valuable to break the mold a little and go back, before World War II, and show earlier conflicts? All games should be designed with a point or intention in mind, maybe something like the Spanish American War could be an interesting look at Single Shot vs repeating Bolt Action rifles. An easy title would be Korea, almost all the assets exist already. Would be a lot less work than an entirely new setting.

This reminds me of the question on adding SPA to the modern titles, considering the point blank usage of stuff like the TOS-1, could be interesting. To finally have more on map stuff.

I believe @Battlefront.com mentioned that there was a desire to make a historical CM title based on this conflict a bit down the road, if so, how granular do you think the modeling of different tank models would be? We have seen enough tank variety that modelling most of them would surpass the WW2 titles. Same question for equipment and small arms too, but I'm not sure how much the engine could support that variety. Having CMPE, the amount of variance in individual soldiers kit that you can program seems to be a swap between a regular and an alt if I recall correctly, meaning there are two possibilities per role/soldier.

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Imagine if CM got as much dev time as this thread

Afghanistan lives on in our hearts. Only realistic scenario for a CMA2 is a CW module, which will only happen if CW and all it's potential modules sell like hot cakes into the far future.

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Is this serious? Anyone with experience playing this game should know that you need to give detailed orders to your vehicles for them to preform properly.

I do appreciate how Kettler has not proved any of his claims, and has instead opted to continue walking in circles with word salads that ultimately mean nothing.

Firstly, your photo evidence (pay stubs) is of dicey quality at best, and It doesn't help your case that there is nothing that is connected to analyzing "Soviets" or "Threats". I know you mentioned you were "Backdoored", but that is ultimately nothing more than conjecture without evidence. Nothing you linked to, proved you were ever a Soviet Threat Analyst. Also, nothing you posted has proven your previous claims regarding the 76mm HEAT shells being able to frontally penetrate an M1 Abrams. PS: I'm not going radio silent, I'm just busy.

Even so, the implication is that is can penetrate the M1 Abrams frontally, which even with the stated numbers in the article, it cannot. So I don't even know why Kettler posted contradicting evidence to his own case.. If he can prove he was a Soviet Threat Analyst then I will absolutely issue a public apology.