Soviet Hero

Thank you AKD, but also a problem with T-72B3, I hope you can be reported together.

The M1 I've tested, 30MM APDS even if only 20 meters away from, is very difficult to penetration armor on his side upper hull.

After 1.01 Update, of course. ERA naturally and protect all right, but no ERA 100% penetration.

In recent days, I played CMBS, and found a T-90's armor protection problem. Russia's 2A42 30MM APDS actually in the distance of 4000 meters, 100% penetration of T-90's side upper hull, this seems unlikely. Want to know, T-90's side upper hull on the AP protection should be 60-80MM, and Russia's 30MM APDS in the 4000 meters distance on the Armor ability should not reach so high. So I think, this may also be a BUG.The same problem, but also in T-72B3. Below I will attach the actual game screenshot:

In addition, I in the game repeatedly tested did confirm that, in CMBS T-90's upper front hull could not stop the armor thickness of about 600MM HEAT. Therefore, at present in the CMBS T-90's upper front hull for HEAT protection must be below 600mm. My these tests are done in the absence of ERA do, apparently, in CMBS T-90's upper front hull armor on the HEAT protection ability below 600mm.

The data of 540MM, Vanir Ausf B is given, His data from AKD.please see the below his reply: Vanir Ausf B Senior Member Members 6,206 posts LocationIn the middle of a desert in SW Wyoming, USA Posted 10 February 2015 - 05:45 PM Soviet Hero, please test the T-90 against AT-7 and let us know the results. The numbers AKD dug up suggest HEAT resistance of 540mm for the T-90 upper hull. The AT-5a penetrates 600mm so I don't see a problem there.

The test source I know, I am here is China, some military magazine in the Chinese also has climbed this test. That Chinese military magazine, the test results attached to the Russian export promotion information in T-90. I think it is the source of the test results. It is a pity, because has in the past few years, the magazine that I now can't find. Or I can scan up.In addition AT-7 really suspicious.

I'll give a Russia published on T-80U and T-90 test results, test results from the Russians own point of view, T-90 upper front hull main armored on the HEAT protection capacity of 540mm this value is low. And this is the 90's at the end of the test, the performance of CMBS in main armor Russia's own T-90 have been those that have improved, so expressive should better is.In CMBS,T-90 upper front hull main armored for HEAT protection ability, should be higher than 540mm.

Hi Vanir Ausf B, thank you for you reply. I have some questions on your reply. How do you get T-90's upper front hull data, which is 540mm against HEAT? AT-4 and AT-5 both are very obsolete ATGM and they are light ATGM. Although in game they are improved AT-4C and AT-5A, the only change is tandem warhead, which has limited improvement on the penetration ability(About 600mm RHA). During the development of T-90 and improvement of later models, it would be quite necessary to test the armor using their own AT weapon. If their new generation composite armor cannot protect against their own old light ATGM, then it is pointless to admit such tank into service. I don't think Russian will be that stupid and incapable to develop a reasonable tank. It's just simple logic. On Russian or Chinese new generation MBT, the western sources and data could only be obtained from captured or destroyed Arabic tanks, or test result on export T series from their allies. Then the new MBT's data are estimated combined with Russian public information. Because we know that the real data of tank in service is classified and these tanks have not seen any real combat so far. On a guy posted STEEL BEASTS PE pic above, Steel beasts PE is professional tank simulation game, so its data could be close to real data. All the tanks playable in Steel beasts are purchased by the developer using USD. So they can explore and study these tanks very closely and get first-hand data. The simulation of device installed on tanks is also very close to real one. Because they have not got Russian authorization on Russian tanks, so Russian tanks are controlled by AI recently. Hence their data should also be obtained from the captured or destroyed Arabic tanks, or test result on export T series from their allies combining with Russian public information. They sent invitation to China once to show their interest on Chinese new generation MBT, but China refused the cooporation. So Steel Beasts PE's reference value is quite high. I think their T-90's data is close to the real one of Russian's newest T-90. At last, I would like to talk about AT-7. From my own testing, AT-7 can kill T-90 frontally. The probability is about 2-3 times partial penetration of upper front armor among 10 trials. Although it shows partial penetration, T-90 either caught fire or was dead instantly. Below is some snapshots of my test: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5760&authkey=!AFNhCGqAnuJiM0Y&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5758&authkey=!AIf25i0TKc510G8&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5757&authkey=!ABFd0pDEejV-LmE&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5756&authkey=!APuKv-b8OSewifU&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5759&authkey=!AMFsITysEWnRDfY&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5755&authkey=!AHS_KUbZJXMJBSc&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5750&authkey=!AOP3wEtTiZhS48U&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5752&authkey=!AIuuyKi05lZnClU&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Next is the result of the test of AT-5A, a total of 2 groups, please click the link to look. https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5754&authkey=!AEKlGZl2R2GVd9E&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5751&authkey=!ANhnutQqPjY92Lo&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5753&authkey=!ABM-KDM4ArpIgBc&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Sorry, here I use the onedrive cannot directly display, only trouble you to click on links to view pictures. A total of three sets of pictures.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5744&authkey=!ADAZIhuug7S8z5w&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5748&authkey=!AGXaQnaa46ia1d0&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5745&authkey=!APK0xng3ieGGIHw&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5747&authkey=!ALsim8f7bw7VDxM&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

The following is the test shots on AT-4C, the other I will test the above in the later: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5746&authkey=!AOVW2A7NYEPZ5xs&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=DE88F592D0055AE9!5749&authkey=!AMSfAf1B1J781n0&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg